Cardinal-Archbishop Timothy Dolan and the religious in the Archdiocese of New York are not going to say every one needs to enter the Church for salvation.
So though false, it is convenient, expedient and prudent, to say ' the church says' all do not have to convert.
Fr.Jonathan Morris on Fox News said 'as it is not like every one needs to become Catholic' indicates the Religious Education and Catechetical instruction being given by priests, which is a break with the past.It is also based on irrationality of their being known exceptions to Vatican Council (AG 7,LG 14) and the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.
Fr.Jonathan Morris has been asked to apologise for his indifferentism.It will be very easy for him, and many Legion of Christ priests to say" I am not saying that all religions are equal" And in the next breath they will say, "All I am saying is that every one today does not have to be a visible member of the Church. There are exceptions". Could they name some case in 2013?
Could he cite some exceptions in 2013 .Give us some names, Voris asked. Does he know who does not need Catholic Faith to go to Heaven and avoid Hell?
Where does the Catechism or Vatican Council II say there are known exceptions?
If Fr.Morris is asked to explain his statement he could say 'The Church says that a person can be saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire' implying that the Church says that these cases are visible to us.
Why does Fr.Morris imply that there are known exceptions when no Church-text makes this claim ? It is also irrational for him to suggest that he can physically see the dead who are saved.
This is the false religious education in Rome and in the Archdiocese of New York.-Lionel Andrades
Saturday, March 9, 2013
Fr.Jonathan Morris needs to apologise-says Michael Voris
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/03/frjonathan-morris-needs-to-apologise.html#links
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Fr.Jonathan Morris needs to apologise-says Michael Voris
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/03/frjonathan-morris-needs-to-apologise.html#links
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CCC 1260: '"Since Christ died for all, and since all men are in fact called to one and the same destiny, which is divine, we must hold that the Holy Spirit offers to all the possibility of being made partakers, in a way known to God, of the Paschal mystery." Every man who is ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and of his Church, but seeks the truth and does the will of God in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved. It may be supposed that such persons would have desired Baptism explicitly if they had known its necessity.'
CCC 1260: '"Since Christ died for all,...
Lionel: Christ died for all, however to receive this salvation, all need to respond by entering the Catholic Church.
Ad Gentes 7: Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door.
(Also see Dominus Iesus 20)
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Every man who is ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and of his Church...
Lionel:
Yes they can be saved and we do not personaly know who these cases are. We cannot judge.So these cases though possibilities known only to God, are not exceptions to Ad Gentes 7 and Lumen Gentium 14 which says all need faith and baptism for salvation.
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It may be supposed that such persons would have desired Baptism explicitly if they had known its necessity.'
Lionel: Yes they can be saved. Once again since these cases are not known to us, they are not physically visible, so they are irrelevant to Ad Gentes 7.
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