Thursday, November 22, 2012

Mons. Andrea Lonardo, Director of the Office for Catechetics , Vicarage of Rome is expected to deny the Faith today

Mons. Andrea Lonardo, Director of the Office for Catechetics , Vicarage of Rome, is to speak today at the Church Santisima dei Pellegrini  where the FSSP has the daily Mass in Latin. He represents the Vicariate which implies they can meet the dead who are saved and so Vatican Council II (LG 16 etc) rejects tradition. They would approve of a second excommunication of the SSPX by the CDF since they are sure that 'seeds of the word'(AG 11) refer to living ,known cases who are exceptions to the salvation dogma and the Syllabus of Errors.

If the deceased saved in invincible ignorance etc were not known to us Vatican Council II, for the Vicariate and the FSSP, would be a traditional Council.So then there could not be excommunication 2 of the SSPX.

Today he speaks at the Church in Rome, where the FSSP Rector, like the Vicariate cannot say all non Catholics are oriented to Hell according to Vatican Council II (AG 7) and the literal intepretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

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Mons. Lonardo is to speak on a politically approved neutral subject of God the Creator.He will not say that according to Vatican Council II(G 7,LG 14) those who believe in God as Creator but do not have Catholic Faith and are not baptized with water are oriented to Hell. He cannot say that Vatican Council II affirms the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

If he did affirm the dogma in accord with the Council there would be no need for excommunication N.2 of the SSPX by the CDF. They would realize that Vatican Council II without the false premise is in accord with the SSPX position on other religions, ecumenism and religious liberty.-Lionel Andrades

They excommunicated Archbishop Lefebvre unaware of the Richard Cushing Error:Excommunication N.2 will also imply that implicit salvation is always explicit for us.

There is political pressure on the pope to excommunicate the Society of St.Pius X(SSPX) unless they approve an interpretation of Vatican Council II which says there is salvation outside the church and these cases are exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.It other words these cases are visible and known to us, it is implied, for them to be exceptions.

The Vatican is likely to go ahead with Excommunication N.2 as they did with the first one unaware of the premise they use in Vatican Council II : of the dead being visible to us on earth. No text in Vatican Council II makes this claim.The premise is implied and generally accepted by the magisterium.

Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre knew that the interpretation of Vatican Council II was modernist but he did not trace its source in the wrong premise.So he could only criticize the Council and not present an alternative.

Today when we celebrate the anniversary of Vatican Council II we are unaware of the Cardinal Richard Error of being able to see the dead saved, which permeates the Council.Without this premise the Council is traditional and in agreement with extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

Since the SSPX has to accept the false premise to gain canonical status they are being asked to claim that they can see the dead saved with 'the seeds of the word.' They can meet cases on earth saved in 'invincible ignorance' or 'a good conscience'. There are those who can be known personally.They are saved in 'imperfect communion' with the Catholic Church. All exceptions to the traditional dogma on salvation.

If they do not adopt the Richard Cushing error in their interpretation of Vatican Council as the traditionalists who offer the Latin Mass in Rome, they could be declared schismatic.-Lionel Andrades