It seems as if the Vatican Curia is in schism.
Archbishops of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican assumed that we can see people dead and saved who are explicit exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus , which says all need to convert into the Church.
Archbishop Gerhard Müller in the National Catholic Register interview : 'The Church Is Not a Fortress' cites Lumen Gentium 14, as an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Archbishop Muller , the Prefect of the CDF when asked about extra ecclesiam nulla salus (which Pope Pius XII called' the dogma' , the 'infallible statement' in the Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston), said:
The Second Vatican Council also said this: Lumen Gentium 14 says: “Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved.” He who is aware of the presence of Revelation is obliged by his conscience to belong publicly
But we cannot say that those who are inculpably ignorant of this truth are necessarily condemned for that reason. We must hope that those who do not belong to the Church through no fault of their own, but who follow the dictates of their God-given conscience, will be saved by Jesus Christ whom they do not yet know. Every person has the right to act according to his or her own conscience.
The Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith is implying that those who are inculpably ignorant are an explicit exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
This is not true since cannot see the dead who are saved in inculpable ignorance. We cannot judge who they are. We cannot meet them on earth. So how can they be an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ?. It is a fact that the dead saved are not visible to us.He suggests they are.
ARCHBISHOP AUGUSTINE DI NOIA
Archbishop Di Noia said that ' Council did say that there were elements of grace in other religions'. He is implying that these cases are explicit exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
How much is a perceived weakening of the dogma extra Ecclesiam nulla salus (no salvation outside the Church) a major part of the problem, as some traditionalists assert? Has today’s understanding of the dogma contradicted its earlier teaching?
I don’t know if you can blame this on the Council so much as the emergence of a theological trend that emphasized the possibility of salvation of non-Christians. But the Church has always affirmed this, and it has never denied it. …
The Council did say there are elements of grace in other religions, and I don’t think that should be retracted. I’ve seen them, I know them — I’ve met Lutherans and Anglicans who are saints.'
There are those who are saved with 'elements of grace in other religions' and he knows who they are personally ?.
Only if he knows who they are can they be exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
So his statement is false since only God can judge who in 2012 has 'elements of grace' and is saved.We cannot say that a particular person is going to be saved. We cannot know that a particular Protestant is going to Heaven. It is a fact that we do not know any any such person saved in the present times.Neither do we know who is going to be saved and is an exception to the dogma on exclusive salvation in only the Catholic Church.
Archbishop Augustine Di Noia is saying that we know people who are saved with 'elements of grace in other religions' for them to be explicit exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.It's only if these cases are known that they can be exceptions to the tradiitonal teaching.
Two Archbishops are in public denying the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and also the Syllabus of Errors with an irrationality - that of being able to see the dead saved on earth.They are not excommunicated or declared to be in schism.
-Lionel Andrades
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