Thursday, August 23, 2012

SISTERS OF ST.BENEDICT CENTER,USA ARE A MODEL FOR THE WHOLE CATHOLIC CHURCH

They are in full communion with the Church and interpret Vatican Council II according to Tradition.

Can all Catholic religious communities, affirm Vatican Council II in accord with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the founders of their community ?

Here is the text of Ad Gentes 7,Vatican Council II and the defined dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door.-Ad Gentes 7,Vatican Council II.
Here is the thrice defined dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.


No magisterial text claims there are known exceptions( of invincible ignorance or implicit desire) or that there are exceptions to the dogma on exclusive salvation or Ad Gentes 7.

When magisterial texts refer to in principle (implicit) exceptions to the dogma one has to assume that they are defacto (explicit, known) exceptions to the dogma. The text does not say it.

They have to be only in principle (dejure, implicit) exceptions since we cannot know any de facto (explicit) case on earth saved in invincible ignorance, who has not had the Gospel preached to him through no fault of his own.

Since those who are saved in invincible ignorance etc are known only to God we do not know if there is any such case in 2012 or ever. We cannot know if these ‘exceptions’ are saved with the baptism of water or without the Sacraments. However this does not contradict the dogma, either way.

The Letter of the Holy Office 1949 affirms the dogma and the literal interpretation of Fr. Leonard Feeney in the earlier paragraphs. If in the latter paragraphs it assumes implicit desire is an explicit exception to the dogma then it made an objective mistake.

Implicit desire is irrelevant to the dogma. We do not know any particular case.

If Lumen Gentium 14 assumes that we know those saved in invincible ignorance and so only those who ‘know’ about Jesus and the Church and who do not convert are oriented to Hell, then this would be an objective mistake. However I interpret it as only God can decide who is in invincible ignorance and who ‘knows’ so there is no controversy here.

So can all Catholic religious communities, affirm Vatican Council II in accord with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the founders of their community ?
-Lionel Andrades

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SSPX DON'T USE THE FALSE PREMISE OF 'those who are saved in invincible ignorance, who have not had the Gospel preached to them through no fault of their own and who are now dead, are known to us, they are visible to us on earth.'

The Sisters of St.Benedict Center do not make this mistake and they are in full communion with the Church.


Keep rejecting the irrational interpretation of the Council with the false premise.

The theology of religions and ecclesiology of communion are based on the false premise.Lay Catholics are confused since LG 16 contradicts AG 7. LG 16 could indicate there is salvation outside the Church when the false premise is used. AG 7 says there is no salvation outside the Church.

This is an irrationality and not the deposit of the faith.
-Lionel Andrades

SSPX PLEASE TELL THE VATICAN THAT YOU ACCEPT VATICAN COUNCIL II JUST LIKE THE SISTERS OF ST.BENEDICT CENTER.

Nostra Aetate 4 says Catholics are the new people of God. Catholics are the Chosen People. Ad Gentes 7 says all need Catholic Faith for salvation.

The Sisters always keep the text of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus before them and there is nothing in Vatican Council II which contradicts it. The Council can be interpreted with the hermeneutic of continuity.

They interpret the Council according to Tradition and they have full canonical status.-
Lionel Andrades

SISTERS OF ST.BENEDICT CENTER,WORCESTER AFFIRM VATICAN COUNCIL II WITH THE LITERAL INTERPRETATION OF THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS AND ALSO THE SYLLABUS OF ERRORS : THEY ARE A MODEL FOR JOHN VENNARI, CHRISTOPHER FERRARA AND THE SSPX


The sisters have canonical status when they interpret Vatican Council II in accord with Tradition and the values of the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) on other religions, ecumenism and religious liberty.

SSPX supporters because of the Richard Cushing Error find that Vatican Council II contradicts Sacred Tradition.

The Sisters are no more on the defensive theologically or doctrinally. They are supported by Vatican Council II and Tradition.
-Lionel Andrades
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