Can Econe change its formation for future seminarians including those from the major Catholic religious communities ?

There are seminarians at Econe from the major religious communities (Dominicans etc) who are waiting to be ordained. In their religious formation they were taught at the Society of St.Pius X seminary that  there are known  exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

They have had the Fr.Francois Laisney  formation on this subject and so they assume that those saved in invincible ignorance etc are exceptions to the defined dogma- hence  for them, Vatican Council II contradicts the traditional interpretation.

With this wrong premise they have been formed religiously to condemn  Vatican Council II and the ‘conciliar church of Rome’.

The July 19, 2012 General Chapter communique of the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) suggests there may be a change in future teaching at the SSPX seminary in Econe.The communique affirms the dogma on salvation and indicates there are no known exceptions.

Unlike Fr.Francois Laisney who has written a book on this subject, which is being sold by the SSPX, the communique indicates that the baptism of desire is irrelevant to the dogma.

So the SSPX is out of the phase of the old apologetics of the baptism of desire being an exception to the dogma. The baptism of desire is recognized but it is not an exception to anything.This was the misunderstanding of Archbishop Richard Cushing and the Jesuits at Boston.The Letter of the Holy Office 1940 could have also made a mistake in the latter paragraphs and so Fr.Peter Scott, the District Superior of the SSPX (USA) would prohibit contacts with supporters of Fr.Leonard Feeney.

So how can Econe completely change its formation for future seminarians, including those who presently study there, from the major Catholic religious communities ?

The ‘conciliar church’ is modernist it is true-and it is a modernism based on the premise of the visible-dead. This is the same error which is a part of the formation at Econe and the Pontifical Seminaries and universities in Rome.-Lionel Andrades

If Rome is asleep then it is the traditionalists job to get Rome to wake up- John Rao

If Rome is asleep, in a traditionalist's mind, then it is the traditionalists job  to get Rome to wake up- John Rao Part 3.( 0:56 ).Sometimes Rome seems to be asleep.

Rome was asleep when it followed the Richard Cushing Error and ignored the traditional path of Fr.Leonard Feeney.

Rome has to wake up to a fact, an objective error, that the dead saved in invincinble ignorance and the baptism of desire cannot be seen. They are not known to us. So they  cannot be cited as an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

So Lumen Gentium 16 does not contradict the literal interpretation of the dogma on exclusive salvation.

George Brenner says in a comment  on this blog:

At some point, Church history will recognize that the Cardinal Cushing versus Father Leonard Feeney stance on Salvation was a critical juncture of truth versus error. The path we went down was the Cushing path which will be reversed, clarified and healed.

-Lionel Andrades
   

ATTENTION SSPX PRIESTS

The Society of St.Pius X communique of July 19, 2012 indicates the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston made a mistake. The baptism of desire is not an exception to the dogma. It is irrelevant to the literal interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney.

The communique affirmed outside the church there is no salvation ‘nor possibility to find the means leading to salvation’. There are no known possibilities like the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance.Invincible ignorance etc is accepted but they are not exceptions to anything.We do not know of any such case saved in 2012 or the last 10 years or more.

Similarly there are no exceptions in Vatican Council II to the dogma, the Syllabus of Errors, Pascendi, Mystici Corporis and Quanto conficiamur.

Doctrinally we have the possibility of accepting Vatican Council II as a traditional Council.

- Lionel Andrades