The National Catholic Register's Rome Correspondent Edward Pentin in interviews with Archbishop Gerhard Muller and Archbishop Augistine Di Noia asked them about extra ecclesiam nulla salus. This is an issue, since the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) mentioned it in their last Chapter statement (July 19,2012).
Archbishop Gerhard Muller , the Prefect of the Congregation or the Doctrine of the Faith response was that extra ecclesiam nulla salus was contradicted by those who can be saved in invincible ignorance. So this dogma which says all need to convert into the Church for salvation was no more relevant for the present time.
Edward Pentin did not ask Archbishop Muller how could cases of non Catholics being saved in invincible ignorance be an exception, since we do not know any such case on earth in 2012. Only if these cases were explicit and known could they be exceptions. So was the Archbishop implying that he would see the dead on earth?
A Catholic can hold the literal interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus along with being saved implicitly in invincible ignorance or with implicit baptism of desire, known only to God ? It does not violate the Principle of Non Contradiction.
Similarly he asked Archbishop Augustine Di Noia about extra ecclesiam nulla salus. The Vice President of Ecclesia Dei indicated that there were exceptions to the dogma. There could be non Catholics saved with 'elements of grace'.
That there can be non Catholics saved with 'elements of grace' is no issue. In principle we accept this. However we cannot claim that these cases are defacto known in the present times and so are exceptions to the thrice defined dogma which Pope Pius XII called an 'infallible statement'(1949).
Edward Pentin again did not ask the Archbishop how could there be known exceptions to the dogma ? Does Archbishop Di Noia personally know cases saved with 'elements of grace' in the present times? Can he be sure that the Protestants whom he admires will be saved and so will be exceptions to the dogma. Can he see the dead saved with 'elements of grace'?
Why should the Protestants whom he admires be exceptions to the ordinary means of salvation which is Catholic faith (AG 7) and the Catholic Church (Redemptoris Missio 55)?
Why should the Protestants whom he admires be exceptions to the ordinary means of salvation which is Catholic faith (AG 7) and the Catholic Church (Redemptoris Missio 55)?
Both Archbishops would have had to answer no. Since it is a fact that we cannot see the dead saved. This error originted with the Archbishop of Boston Cardinal Richard Cushing.He assumed that the baptism of desire was an exception to the dogma.Even though it was irrelevent the excommunication of Fr.Leonard Feeney was not lifted for 19 years.
Since both archbishops assume that there are exceptions Edward Pentin could have asked them if they believed in three known baptisms or more than three known baptisms for the forgiveness of sin instead of one, as mentioned in the Nicene Creed etc.
Well, may be in his next interview he could clarify these points.
-Lionel Andrades
BOTH ARCHBISHOP MULLER AND DI NOIA MADE A FACTUAL ERROR IN THEIR SEPARATE INTERVIEWS WITH THE NATIONAL CATHOLIC REGISTER
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