CARDINAL JOSEPH RATZINGER AND ARCHBISHOP MARCEL LEFEBVRE COULD HAVE PREVENTED THE SSPX PROBLEM BY IDENTIFYING THE WRONG PREMISE

Both Cardinal Ratzinger and Archbishop Lefebvre could have ended the Society of St.Pius X ( SSPX ) problem before it arose, if they had just observed that the baptism of desire was never ever an exception to the literal interpretation of the dogma extra eclesiam nullla salus and to Fr.Leonard Feeney's traditional interpretation.

They did not realize that all who are dead and saved are implicit for us and never explicitly known. So there are no exceptions in Vatican Council II to extra ecclesiam nullas salus.

We acknowledge the baptism of desire etc but they are not exceptions. So Vatican Council II is saying there is no salvation outside the church .

Here are the two premises with their logical conclusions.

Premise1: The dead saved are visible to us.

Premise 2: The dead saved are not visible to us.

Conclusion with Premise 1: There is salvation outside the church.

Conclusion with Premise 2: There is no salvation outside the Church.

Conclusion with Premise 1: Vatican Council Ii says there is salvation outside the Church.(LG 16-invincible ignorance etc)

Conclusion with Premise 2: Vatican Council II says there is no salvation outside Church. (LG 16 is not explicit but implicit).

Conclusion with Premise 1: Vatican Council II contradicts extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

Conclusion with Premise 2: Vatican Council ii is in accord with Vatican Council II and the Syllabus of Errors. It does not contradict them.

Conclusion with Premise 1: Vatican Council II is modernist.

Conclusion with Premise 2: Vatican Council II is traditional.

I leave you to judge which premise was being used by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger and Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre.

The SSPX have just to inform Ecclesia Dei  that they affirm the second premise. The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican cannot fault them for rejecting Vatican Council II and not affirming traditional values on other religions. etc. They are not rejecting the Council but only useing a different interpretation.

If the cardinal and archbishop understood and  used the second premise, there would be no excommunication.

APPLY IT TO VATICAN COUNCIL II

ATherefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door. B.Therefore those men cannot be saved, who though aware that God, through Jesus Christ founded the Church as something necessary, still do not wish to enter into it, or to persevere in it."-Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II.

Conclusion with Premise I: B contradicts A.

Conclsuion with Premise 2: B does not contradict A.

A.Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door...B.Therefore though God in ways known to Himself can lead those inculpably ignorant of the Gospel to find that faith without which it is impossible to please Him (Heb. 11:6), yet a necessity lies upon the Church (1 Cor. 9:16), and at the same time a sacred duty, to preach the Gospel. And hence missionary activity today as always retains its power and necessity.-Ad  Gentes 7, Vatican Council II

Conclusion with Premise I: B contradicts A.
Conclsuion with Premise 2: B does not contradict A.

A. Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door.-Ad Gentes 7

B. '...let them gladly and reverently lay bare the seeds of the Word which lie hidden among their fellows.-Ad Gentes 7

Conclusion with Premise I: B contradicts A.
Conclusion with Premise 2: B does not contradict A.

This same analysis can be done with other passages in Vatican Council II.

-Lionel Andrades