Friday, September 14, 2012

JEFF MIRUS AND PHIL LAWLER DON’T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY


Immediately after I wrote the post on Jeff Mirus (1) I posted it to Phil Lawler and Jeff Mirus. Mirus has nothing to say. Phil Lawler proclaims the literal interpretation of the dogma outside the church no salvation, as it was known for centuries

How can Jeff Mirus respond to that post  ?


1. I am not denying the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance. I accept them in principle. They can only be accepted in faith since we do not know any explicit case in 2012. So he cannot criticize me here.


2. He cannot say that the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance are exceptions to the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.He now knows that we do not know any case. So it is irrelevant to the dogma

He canot accept the literal interpretation of the dogma and cannot cite any known exceptions.He must be trying to find a way out. He would not want to be considered a traditionalist . He has been criticizing them.


His report placed on the internet has Fr.William Most criticizing Fr.Leonard Feeney for denying the baptism of desire. Now Jeff Mirus knows that the baptism of desire is irrelevant to the literal interpretation of the dogma.Will he pull down that post? If knowingly he keeps it on the internet he is telling everyone a lie.

The real issue is : does Jeff Mirus hold the same position on the dogma as the SSPX Chapter statement (July 19,2012). Is he saying that there is no salvation outside the church (2) like the SSPX ?
-Lionel Andrades



1.
Jeff Mirus could be asked if he knows anyone saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire in 2012. If he does not, then how can the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance be an exception to Fr. Leonard Feeney?


2.
For this reason it seems opportune that we reaffirm our faith in the Roman Catholic Church, the unique Church founded by Our Lord Jesus Christ, outside of which there is no salvation nor possibility to find the means leading to salvation...-SSPX  (July 19,2012) Emphasis added.

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