Thursday, June 7, 2012

SEDEVACANTISTS DIMOND BROTHERS VIOLATE THE PRINCIPLE OF NON CONTRADICTION

The Dimond Brothers violate the principle of Non Contradiction. If one assumes that the baptism of desire is explicit it would mean that it is in contradiction to the dogma, which indicates  every one needs to be an explicit member of the church for salvation. They assume that the baptism of desire is explicit and so they reject it. However they still assume that it is explicit and all who affirm implicit baptism of desire are considered heretics.

So Catholic religious communities who hold the literal interpretation of the dogma and also accept in principle the baptism of desire (implicit) would also be heretics for the sedevacantists.But these communities would not be violating the Principle of Non Contradiction. However the sedevacantists would assume that the Catholic religious communities are violating the Principle of Non Contradiction since in their mind the baptism of desire is always explicit and known to us.

The Most Holy Family Monastery (MHFM) sedevacantists do not make the defacto-dejure, in principle-in fact, implicit-explicit distinction.

So the baptism of desire for them is ALWAYS defacto, known in fact and explicit. So it contradicts the dogma, which says everyone needs to convert into the Church; every one needs to be an explicit member for salvation. So for them the baptism of desire is explicit and the dogma says everyone needs to be an explicit member of the Church .This is an explicit-explicit irrational interpretation.

Reason tells us that the baptism of desire is implicit. So a person, in principle, can be saved with implicit baptism desire. While in fact, in reality, everyone needs to be a defacto, explicit member of the Church for salvation (as the MHFM also maintains). This is an implicit-explcit, in principle-in fact, interpretation and it is not contrary to the Principle of Non Contradiction.

The Dimond Brothers violate the Principle of non Contradiction and call many Catholics heretics. Since they assume implicit desire is explicit for us.-Lionel  Andrades

1 comment:

George Brenner said...

Lionel,

I do not know how you can possibly make this ongoing discussion any clearer. Your explanations are well thought out, with very good documentation. I wonder if anyone will address your last two posts and what their specific rebuttal would be. We must pray that eyes, mind, heart and soul are opened to the light of the Holy Spirit.

There are many in the Church that are teaching a completely inaccurate interpretation of Invincible Ignorance, Baptism of Blood and Baptism of Desire. These possibilities need to be in the hands of God alone completely and without speculation as to the destiny of one's soul. I offer you this one example. There was a man who by definition truly was Invincibly ignorant of the necessity of belonging to the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. BUT at the same time this person was morally bankrupt and committed rape, stole from people, physically hurt people and did other unspeakable acts. Since we must judge no one, this situation would be in the hands of God alone to judge. Invincible Ignorance in no way guarantees Salvation as many would imply. An invincibly ignorant person does not have to mean that he/she is a morally good person and deserves Heaven or even Purgatory as if it was automatic. All the more reason why the possibility of Invincible Ignorance, Baptism of Desire and Baptism of Blood MUST be left to God alone.
We must teach the faith only with the rigorist position of No Salvation Outside the Catholic Church and everyone must receive Baptism of water.
What is next ,a petition to revoke the Ex Cathedra Pronouncements of Pope Eugene IV as being errenous?