Fr.Francois Laisney of the SSPX ‘s controversial book Is Feeneyism Catholic is available on the Internet and it indicates why the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) does not realize that their error is in ecclesiology, the rejection of ecclesiocentrism and not realizing that Vatican Council II is a traditional Council in agreement with traditional values, including that of the SSPX on other religions, ecumenism and religious liberty.
Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre admitted that a person could be saved in invincible ignorance etc but did not say that these cases were explicitly known to us or that they are explicit exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
In the book made available for SSPX seminarians Fr.Laisney who has been associated with the Australian branch of the community writes on the baptism of desire and is critical of Fr.Leonard Feeney just like the liberals.
His oversight is : he assumes that the baptism of desire is an explicit exception to the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
If Fr.Leonard Feeney accepted the baptism of desire or rejected it , he does not realize, is irrelevant to his literal interpretation of the dogma.
This is the point missed out by other SSPX priests too and also their bishops.Since they assume that the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance are explicit exceptions to the dogma they assume that LG 16, Vatican Council II contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. This was the propaganda of Fr.Hans Kung but the error originated with Cardinal Richard Cushing and the Jesuits in Boston in the 1940’s.
Since the SSPX believes that those saved with a good conscience etc are known to us they assume that Vatican Council II contradicts the traditional teaching on other religions etc.
So for the SSPX the Church is no more ecclesiocentric since there are explicit exceptions to the dogma on salvation.
Fr. Peter Scott of the SSPX writes:
The problem is not with Vatican Council II but their interpretation which is irrational. Since cases saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire are unknown to us. They can only be accepted in principle.They cannot be exceptions known to us.
Fr. Peter Scott of the SSPX writes:
Many erudite works (I recommend Father Rulleau’s book, Baptism of Desire and Father Laisney’s new book, Is Feeneyism Catholic? published by Angelus Press, which will be available by the end of May) list texts from the Fathers and theologians, who are unanimous in their teaching about the possibility of baptism of blood and desire.The Church Fathers are unanimous in their teaching about the possibility of baptism of desire but none of them claim that these cases are explicitly known as Fr. Scott implies. None of them have said that the baptism of desire is an explicit exception to the dogma on salvation. So for Fr. Scott the Church is no more ecclesiocentric. There are known exceptions. No wonder their community is confused on Vatican Council II. They say they accept extra ecclesiam nulla salus but mean there are explicit exceptions to the traditional interpretation.
http://www.sspx.org/miscellaneous/feeneyism/may_01_district_superiors_letter.htm
The problem is not with Vatican Council II but their interpretation which is irrational. Since cases saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire are unknown to us. They can only be accepted in principle.They cannot be exceptions known to us.
It's now a few years that I have been writing on this subject . No one from the SSPX refutes what I write or even comments.-Lionel Andrades
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The mission of the Church is to teach, instruct and explain with clarity our Catholic Faith. Are there any circumstance or scenarios whereby the Church would teach specifically Baptism of Desire to any person that the Church comes into contact with? Has any missionary said as he was leaving the village, " you can always receive Baptism of Desire." ????
Would not Baptism of Desires flow chart go from person>>>state of grace>>>to God for judgement? There certainly could not be some advantage of Desire over water since water is what was taught by Jesus. What would the flow chart to Salvation look like of a person who received Baptism of Desire?
Certainly the possibility of BOB, BOD and Invincible ignorance would be known to God and God alone for His judgement and application of His justice and mercy.
It is almost as if most Catholics are ashamed of teaching No Salvation Outside the Catholic Church. Since we have not taught the faith with clarity and passion, we have greatly lost the faith and thus the severe crisis of Faith for the last fifty plus years. There must be no arrogance in teaching our Faith but at the same time We can not reduce everything to a broad. feel good watered down failure of being specific so as not to offend anyone.
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