Monday, June 4, 2012

CONFERENCE NEEDED

There was the Fatima Conference last month in Rome in which apologist John Salza was one of the speakers. On June 9 Fr. Tim Finigan is to speak at a Latin Mass Society One Day Conference: ‘Traditional Liturgy and Catholic Life’. There was a conference addressed by Cardinal Kurt Koch on May 16 at the Angelicum.The pope will speak at a conference organized in Rome on May 11 on the baptism of water. None of them will have said that in principle all people need the baptism of water for salvation and there could be exceptions While defacto (in reality, in fact) every one needs the baptism of water for salvation and there are no known exceptions.

John Salza and Tim Finigan have difficulty with the subject of baptism of desire and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Cardinal Koch denies the dogma outright. The pope is expected to say every one needs the baptism of water for salvation but some people do not need the baptism of water for salvation. We may  have to make the in principle, in fact distinction to clear the confusion.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church 846 says all who are saved are saved though Jesus and the Church and this statement does not contradict the literal interpretation of the dogma on salvation.There are many Catholics who believe that since ‘we know’ people saved in invincible ignorance not everyone needs to enter the Church but only those ‘who know’.This is a point not touched at conferences.

Could some conference 'leak’ out the information that according to the Bishop of Worcester USA all religious communities could hold the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus along with implicit baptism of desire and not knowing cases of persons saved in invincible ignorance. This is such an important point and yet speakers at the many Catholic conferences are unaware of it.

Someone should hold a conference for the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) on the theme 'Vatican Council II does not clash with the SSPX position on ecumenism and other religions.'
‘I repeat, it is possible for someone to be saved in these religions, but they are saved by the Church, and so the formulation is true: Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus. This must be preached.”-Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, Against the Heresies, pp. 217-218]
 Elsewhere he has said that there could be people in other religions saved with implicit desire.

He has not said that these cases are known to us and so they are explicit exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Bishop Fellay assumes it is.There should be a few conferences on just this subject.

1. Implicit desire etc is not an exception to the literal interpretation of the dogma according to Fr.Leonard Feeney.

2. The Archbishop did not say it was.

3. If the SSPX bishops can realize this then LG 16 is not an exception to the literal ‘formulation’ of extra ecclesiam nulla salus which ‘must be preached’.

4. Then Vatican Council II (AG 7) supports their position on ecumenism and other religions.
-Lionel Andrades

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