Rorate Caeli does not provide promised report of Cardinal Kurt Koch's talk and statement to the Press on May 16 at the Angelicum.
Comments on the Catholic News Service report were removed after a few hours and readers were told there would be another report of the Cardinal's statement and questions and answers. Rorate Caeli said ‘The complete text of the lecture, delivered in English, and of its Q&A follow-up session are not available at the moment’. They are still not available.However the CNS report is available on the Catholic News Service website.Rorate Caeli mentions Jack Bemporad, a Reform Judaism rabbi, is the president of the "Interreligious Dialogue" Center at the Angelicum University and he also had some words to say regarding the decisions of Pope Benedict XVI.
For the record: What did Koch say? [Updated]
Cardinal Koch, President of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity and of the Commission of the Holy See for Religious Relations with the Jews, was the speaker of this year's John Paul II Annual Lecture, promoted by the John Paul II Center for Interreligious Dialogue, a "partnership between the Russell Berrie Foundation and the Pontifical University of St Thomas Aquinas (Angelicum)" and itself located in the Angelicum. The Angelicum was, of course, the great Thomist center in Rome, also dedicated these days to "training in the specialties of ecumenism and interreligious dialogue, developed according to the principles set out by the Second Vatican Council and the official Directory for the Application of Principles and Norms on Ecumenism of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity"... The complete text of the lecture, delivered in English, and of its Q&A follow-up session are not available at the moment, but SIR, the news agency of the Italian episcopate, made a summary of the conference available, a link we post here for the record of events. [Tip: Le Forum Catholique]
Note, the Angelicum these days are "training in the specialties of ecumenism and interreligious dialogue, developed according to the principles set out by the Second Vatican Council and the official Directory for the Application of Principles and Norms on Ecumenism of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity"...
Vatican Council II states all Jews and other non Catholics need to convert for salvation and this was uncomfortable information and so the comments were pulled down. The comments were contrary to the political propaganda at the University of St.Thomas Aquinas by the rabbi .
The comments mentioned that we do not know any case of a non Catholic saved in invincible ignorance and a good conscience and so Lumen Gentium 16 did not contradict Ad Gentes 7 or the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. There could have been cries of anti Semitism and so New Catholic caved at Rorate Caeli.This is not what is being taught by the American rabbi to Catholic seminarians.
The comments mentioned that the SSPX position on ecumenism and other religions is in agreement with Vatican Council II. Don't even try to imagine the reaction at the Angelicum.They could not dialogue. They could just threathen and get comments removed.
'Principles and Norms on Ecumenism of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity'.!
Cardinal Koch President of the Pontifical Council for Christian Unity and the Jews told us the norms etc of his Vatican office in the CNS report of the May 16 talk. The cardinal indicated that Jews do not have to convert in the present time and so the SSPX would have to accept this first class heresy to get canonical status.this would be acceptable to the Jewish Left.
There is no magisterial document which says the Church has retracted the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation. The rabbis do not like this to be mentioned on the internet.Vatican Council II says outside the church there is no salvation (AG 7) and it is in full agreement with the SSPX position on ecumenism and Judaism.There are no known exceptions on earth.-Lionel Andrades
Koch’s SSPX must accept Jews do not have to convert to receive canonical status talk reported by Catholic News Service downplayed on Rorate Caeli
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