Fr. James Martin, SJ in The Anti-Semitism of the Society of St.Pius X (Jan 31, 2009 America ) asks why would the pope move to lift the ban on a group that has as its raison d’etre the rejection of the Second Vatican Council which is an ecclesial-theological issue. He says this is a rejection of the documents of the Second Vatican Council, which includes a rejection of Nostra Aetate.
I think the SSPX in reality does not reject Vatican Council II according to the texts of the Council.Nostra Aetate 4 says the Church is' the new people of God'. While Ad Gentes 7 states all need Catholic Faith and the baptism of water for salvation. This includes Jews.
Is Vatican Council II now anti Semitic for this Jesuit priest ?
SSPX is affirming Nostra Aetate 4 and Ad Gentes 7 even though they say they reject Vatican Council II. They reject Vatican Council II as interpreted by the Jewish Left.
Fr.Martin is really saying the SSPX rejects the documents of the Council, which includes Nostra Aetate, as interpreted by the Jewish Left.
There is no text in Nostra Aetate which says Jews do not have to convert or that Jews are saved in general in their religion.That Catholics should have good relations with the Jews and others was taught to us by Jesus and it is explained in the Bible long before Vatican Council II.
So from the ecclesial-theological view the SSPX are in accord with Vatican Council II
Regarding other points against the SSPX, as being anti Semitic,some of the quotations are those of the popes. Other information comes from the Bible.
Fr.Martin does not say that the popes, the Bible and Jesus were anti-Semitic.
-Lionel Andrades
http://www.americamagazine.org/blog/entry.cfm?blog_id=2&id=2D6AFB07-1438-5036-4F1C9D841C32199D
Regarding other points against the SSPX, as being anti Semitic,some of the quotations are those of the popes. Other information comes from the Bible.
Fr.Martin does not say that the popes, the Bible and Jesus were anti-Semitic.
-Lionel Andrades
http://www.americamagazine.org/blog/entry.cfm?blog_id=2&id=2D6AFB07-1438-5036-4F1C9D841C32199D
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I followed your argument with sympathy but also some difficulty. If you are saying that even though the SSPX say they say reject Vatican II, they don't REALLY reject Vatican II but only the Jewish (and secular humanist) interpretation of Vatican II? Are you saying that Vatican II doesn't contradict nullus salus extra ecclesiam? Sorry, but that's very arguable. I don't see how any person or group can profess adherence to the traditional Catholic Faith yet accept any part of the Jewish-Masonic-Protestant statements of Vatican II.
If you are saying that even though the SSPX say they say reject Vatican II, they don't REALLY reject Vatican II but only the Jewish (and secular humanist) interpretation of Vatican II?
Lionel:
Yes
Are you saying that Vatican II doesn't contradict nullus salus extra ecclesiam?
Lionel: Yes
Sorry, but that's very arguable.
Lionel:
Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door.-Ad Gentes 7
There are no known exceptions to AG 7 in Vatican Council II
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