Friday, September 16, 2011

Robert Sungenis, John Salza : Baptism of Desire does not compromise the Church’s teaching “No Salvation outside the Church”

Apologists correct  error of sedevacantists Peter and Michael Dimond on the website Most Holy Family Monastery who assume the baptism of desire is explicitly known and so contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus

Robert Sungenis and John Salza on the website The Bellarmine Report, Baptism of Desire: Legit or not Legit? consider the Baptism of desire as an exception which does not contradict the dogma outside the church there is no salvation.


Warren probably thinks that baptism of desire somehow compromises the Church’s teaching “No Salvation outside the Church.” But it clearly does not, as those who are joined to the Mystical Body are obviously members of the Church.
The Most Holy Family Monastery consider the baptism of desire as explicit and so believe it contradicts the infallible definitions  on Outside the Church There is No Salvation.Here is a quotation from their  website.

Those who believe in this latter idea (that baptism of desire can apply to Jews or Muslims, etc.) would have to immediately abandon it upon seeing any of the infallible definitions on Outside the Church There is No Salvation. If not, they are definitely heretics who have been automatically excommunicated from the Church. One could not reasonably believe that members of non-Catholic religions being saved is compatible with Outside the Church There is No Salvation. - page 167, The Dogma that there is No Salvation Outside the Catholic Church and without the Catholic Faith and refuting baptism of desire- from the website of the Most Holy Family Monastery,NY
-Lionel Andrades

MOST HOLY FAMILY MONASTERY SEDEVACANTISTS CONSIDER BAPTISM OF DESIRE DE FACTO AND KNOWABLE IN THE PRESENT TIME

SEDEVACANTISTS SLIP ON BOD UNDERSTANDING AND CRITICIZE POPE JOHN PAUL II

MHFM SLIPS ON BOD DEFINITION AND CRITICIZES SSPX

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