1.Is it possible for a priest to explicitly know baptism of desire cases? Can a baptism of desire case be known explicitly by anyone?
2.Can a priest not affirm an ex cathedra dogma and still offer Holy Mass? Is there not a need for a clarification to remove the scandal? Is this priest in mortal sin and does he have to go for Confession before he offers daily Mass in the Archdiocese?
Friday, October 22, 2010
SYDNEY PRIEST SPOTS BAPTISM OF DESIRE CASES DOWNTOWN?
Fr. John George rejects an ex cathedra dogma in public on his forum and so is in public mortal sin. The priest is not permitted to offer Mass without Confession and making public amends to remove the scandal.He couldn't care.
An Australian priest from the Archdiocese of Sydney suggests that one can actually know cases of the Baptism of desire. I do not know if the Vicar General of the Archdiocese of Sydney also has this ‘gift’. However if you ask an average Catholic if everyone needs Catholic Faith for salvation the answer could be , “ Yes accept for those with the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance”.
It would seem by that answer that there are many other Catholics who can also ‘spot’ cases of the baptism of desire.
Fr. John George, Supplementary Priest – Retired (St John Vianney Villa 70 Market St Randwick NSW 2031) indicates on his forum-board one can have the moral certainty of people having the baptism of desire.
By moral certainty does it mean you can tell that there were five baptisms of desire cases this month in Sydney?
The Catholic Church teaches that the baptism of desire is always implicit and so known only to God. Since it can never be explicitly known to us it does not contradict the ex cathedra dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus which says everyone needs to be an explicit member of the Catholic Church to avoid Hell and there are no exceptions.
On the forum the priest was not willing to affirm the ex cathedra dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
1. “There is but one universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved.” (Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council, 1215). Ex cathedra.
2.“We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.” (Pope Boniface VIII, the Bull Unam Sanctam, 1302.).Ex cathedra.
3.“The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.” (Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441.) Ex cathedra – from the website Catholicism.org and “No Salvation outside the Church”: Link List, the Three Dogmatic Statements Regarding EENS http://nosalvationoutsideofthecatholicchurch.blogspot.com/
To reject an ex cathedra dogma in public is a mortal sin and the priest is not permitted to offer Mass without Confession and making public amends to remove the scandal.
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