Wednesday, September 15, 2010

MICHAEL VORRIS AN EMBARRASSMENT FOR CDF, ECCLESIA DEI, CATHOLIC ANSWERS, USCCB

Affirms extra ecclesiam nulla salus with style and avoids the heretical interpretation ‘except for those in invincible ignorance, baptism of desire etc’

He uses the Internet effectively and is now becoming a phenomenon among Catholics. Established Catholic group in heresy are beginning to campaign against him.This is a good sign. He‘s saying aloud what priests, bishops and cardinals would like to keep hidden.

He is refusing to accept the compromised life they call Catgholic, like the USCCB does who have accepted the Jewish Left limits placed on us Catholics. Even the Pontifical Ecclesia Dei, Vatican’s Mons. Arthur Calkins, an employee of he Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican will not comment on basic teachings of the Catholic Faith.

Calkins and others have rejected the rigorist interpretation of the ex cathedra dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and have accepted the separation of Church and State. Not Michael Vorris.

In a video with his characteristic style of presentation he told us that there are only Catholics in Heaven or only Catholics go to Heaven.

Of course he  is right. This is the pre Vatican Council II and post Vatican Council II teaching of the Magisterium of the Catholic Church. It is a rejection of the interpretation of Vatican Council II by apologists Tim Staples (Catholic Answers), Patrick Madrid (EWTN) and others who have earned their living at the expense of truth and the Catholic Church.

Vorris however must address theological issues directly since this is the basis of dissent in the Catholic Church and the virus has even struck his colleague at Real Catholic TV, Simon Rafe.

I had mentioned in a previous post that Pope Pius XII in 1949 in the Letter of the Holy office mentioned 'the dogma' the 'infallible teaching' extra ecclesiam nulla salus. So the dogma is not something from medieval times. Pope Pius XII was saying through the Letter issued by Cardinal Ottaviani that all Jews in Boston and the rest of the world need to convert into the Catholic Church with no exception.

So the USCCB Notification on Fr. Peter C. Phan could be heresy if interpreted according to Ecclesia Dei's Mons.Calkins, Catholic Answers, Ignatius Press and in Rome the Jesuit Apostolato di Preghiera, Foyer Unitas Lay Centre, the Legionaries of Christ etc, i.e. thousands of informed Catholics.

When the United States Conference of Catholics Bishops (USCCB) says everyone needs to enter the Catholic Church except for those in invincible ignorance, the baptism of desire or blood, it needed to clarify, that they are known only to God. People can be saved in this category but they are unknown to us.

So if they are unknown to us and can be judged only by Jesus the teaching of the 'rigorist interpretation’ the ex cathedra dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, is still the official teaching of the Magisterium of the Catholic Church.

Without this clarification the interpretation being used of Vatican Council II and the Catechism would be heresy. With the Clarification Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church is in accord with the ex cathedra dogma. They are in accord with Pope Pius XII's Letter of the Holy Office.

The USCCB was correct in checking Fr. Peter Phan and emphasizing the necessity of the Church for the salvation of all people. However the 'mantra' 'everybody needs to enter the Church EXCEPT for those in invincible ignorance, the baptism of desire or blood...' needs to be clarified.

When the Notification was made public reports in the media mentioned it had the approval of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican.

The ex cathedra dogma is in accord with Church Documents issued by the CDF.

Jesus died for the salvation of all people, however to receive this salvation they need to enter he Church (Dominus Iesus 20).

There is no theology which can say non Catholic religions are paths to salvation. Their members are oriented into the Catholic Church (CDF, Notification, on Fr. Jacques Dupuis S.J 2001)

God the Father wants all people to be united into the Catholic Church, the Church is the only Ark of Noah that saves in the flood. (Catechism of the Catholic Church 845)

So the 'mantra' repeated by Catholics, contradicts these Church Documents and is irrational.

Who among us knows of a case of someone who has received the baptism of desire? I cannot judge who has a good conscience or is in genuine invincible ignorance.

So if we do not know any case (explicitly or implicitly, externally or in principle) then why mention it in the mantra?

It's irrational. It’s a straw man, something that does not exist for us. Catholics can say that as a concept, a probability known only to God a person can be saved in invincible ignorance, with the baptism of desire or blood, or with a conscience Jesus will judge good on the Day of Judgement. However for us it is only hypothetical and not an actuality now; not a reality that we can know of. So we can also say that the Church guided by the Holy Spirit teaches: everyone on earth with no exception needs Catholic Faith and the Baptism of water to go to Heaven and avoid Hell. There are no exceptions ( Cantate Dominio, Council of Florence- Ex cathedra, Letter of the Holy office 1949, Evangelii Nuntiandi of Pope Paul VI, Redemptoris Missio 55, Dominus Iesus 20, CCC 845, CDF Notification on Fr. Jacques Dupuis S.J etc).

In the words of Michael Vorris of Real Catholic TV, there are only Catholics in Heaven. Jesus called the Catholic Church "my church" he said in his popular show the Vortex.

I hope Vorris could do a program on the subject of this post.

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