MARIOLOGIST MONS. ARTHUR B. CALKINS: AT FATIMA DID OUR LADY SAY ‘THE DOGMA OF THE FAITH’ WHICH YOU DENY ‘WILL BE LOST’?

Mariologist Mons. Arthur B. Calkins at his office in the Vatican has an unusual picture of St. Maximillian Kolbe. The American at Ecclesia Dei, Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican is often invited to Catholic universities here as a Marian Consultant, an authority. He has done reviews on a proposed Marian Dogma of Our Lady as Co Redemptrix. He has reviewed a book critical of Medugorje and introduced a book which I read, and re read with pleasure, on Don Scotus. He has written academic papers on Marian subjects and off hand I can recall a wonderful piece on the conversion of Alphonse Ratisbonne at the Church of San Andrea della Fratte, Rome.

However he departs from St. Maximillian Kolbe when he will not in private or public affirm the ex cathedra dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. He told me his information on this subject was not enough and that he was not a specialist on St. Thomas Aquinas.

What about Fatima?

Did Our Lady mean that the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus will be lost in Europe, the USA but not in Portugal?

Catholic author Michael Brown refers to ‘the dogmas of the faith’. The dogma of the faith if it was extra ecclesiam nulla salus would be very difficult for Brown who has a pro Medugorje website Spirit Daily.

It is not clear for me because of the translations: did Our Lady say ‘the dogmas of the faith’ will be lost or just ‘the dogma of the faith’?

Singular or plural the dogma of the faith is lost at the Ecclesia Dei office.

The mariologist could tell us if the Wikipedia entry on extra ecclesiam nulla salus is wrong and that the dogma really says everyone with no exception needs to be a visible member of the Catholic Church.

Medugorje pilgrim and journalist Antonio Socci says there is a cover up on one of the secrets of Fatima. Is there a cover-up on the real meaning of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus?

To reject an infallible teaching or to distort its meaning is ‘grave material’. How can a priest offer the Tridentine Rite Mass in Rome (Calkins, Barreiro, Kramer…) who will not in public affirm the dogma? Is this what Our Lady meant at Akita, Japan when she said that many priests and religious will accept compromise as Satan enters the Church? Could you do a review on this subject and post it on the Internet?
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CATHOLICS NEED TO CAMPAIGN AGAINST WIKIPEDIA

Wikipedia is putting out information about Catholic teaching which is factually inaccurate.Catholics need to protest against these distortions.

It states:

The Roman Catholic Church also teaches that the doctrine does not mean that everyone who is not visibly within the Church is necessarily damned.

Yet the ex cathedra dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus actually says that everyone with no exception needs to be a visible member of the Catholic Church. Wikipedia never says this. Instead it suggests the opposite and calls a dogma a doctrine(See extra ecclesiam nulla salus on Wikipedia).

Wikipedia  never quotes the Catechism in support of the literal meaning, the ‘rigorist interpretation’ of the dogma i.e. every body needs to be a card carrying member of the Catholic Church for salvation. The Catechism says 1) God wants all people to be united in the Catholic Church, God wants all people to worship Him in the Catholic Church 2) the Church is the only ark of Noah that’s saves in the Flood 3) the Church knows of no means to eternal beatitude other than the baptism of water…

The Catechism indicates that all educated, informed non Catholics are on the way to Hell. This is the meaning of the dogma. Infomed Muslims and Jews in Boston, Milan and Paris are on the way to Hell-fires. Extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

The bottom-line is that the thrice defined ex cathedra dogma states everyone needs to be a visible member of the Church for salvation and there are no exceptions. Wikipedia needs to post the three ex cathedra definition.

Pope Pius XII called this dogma the 'infallible' teaching.

Now, among those things which the Church has always preached and will never cease to preach is contained also that infallible statement by which we are taught that there is no salvation outside the Church.

However, this dogma must be understood in that sense in which the Church herself understands it. For, it was not to private judgments that Our Savior gave for explanation those things that are contained in the deposit of faith, but to the teaching authority of the Church.- (Letter of the Holy Office 1949). Emphasis added.

Here is the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus:

1. “There is but one universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved.” (Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council, 1215). Ex cathedra.

2. “We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.” (Pope Boniface VIII, the Bull Unam Sanctam, 1302.).Ex cathedra.

3. “The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.” (Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441.) Ex cathedra

– from the website Catholicism.org and “No Salvation outside the Church”: Link List, the Three Dogmatic Statements Regarding EENS http://nosalvationoutsideofthecatholicchurch.blogspot.com/

So how can Wikipedia say that the dogma does not indicate that every one needs to be a visible member of the Catholic Church and those in invincible ignorance etc can also be saved. Neither does the Catechism or Vatican Council II refer to invincible ignorance etc as being explicit instead of implicit salvation.

Wikipedia makes no distinction between ex cathedra teachings and that of the ordinary magisterium on the subject extra ecclesiam nulla salus. There are three ex cathedra definitions of the dogma and they cannot be superseded by the ordinary Magisterium. Yet the entire extra ecclesiam nulla salus entry on Wikipedia does just that.

So if the infallible teaching is that everyone with no exception needs to be a visible member of the Catholic Church then how can any other teaching contradict it.

Secondly it would also mean that the interpretation of the ordinary Magisterium according to Wikipedia is wrong.

The dogma says that everyone must be a visible member of the Catholic Church to go to Heaven and avoid Hell. So when Wikipedia quotes from the statements of popes, Vatican Council II and the Catechism it needs to know that the ex cathedra teaching supersedes them all.

Secondly we can also interpret those very statements of the popes, Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church as being in accord with the ex cathedra dogma.

So Wikipedia’s entry on extra ecclesiam nulla salus is factually and objectively incorrect since 1) the dogma says clearly that everyone needs to be a visible member of the Catholic Church to be saved.

2) The Magisterium teaches that everyone with no exception needs to explicitly enter the Catholic Church through Catholic Faith and the Baptism of water to go to Heaven and avoid Hell (Ex cathedra extra ecclesiam nulla salus, Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II, Catechism of the Catholic Church n.836, Dominus Iesus 20 etc).Lumen Gentium  16 refers to those saved implicitly and not explicitly. The popes knew this. Those with the baptism of desire, genuine invincible ignorance and a good conscience are known to God only. They are always implicit and subjective cases.There are no de facto cases of baptism of desire that we know of. The Wikipedia entry wrongly suggests it is explicit.

Only those who know and do not enter the Catholic Church will go to Hell ?They will definitely go to Hell according to Ad Gentes 7,Vatican Council II. However all non Catholics are oriented to Hell unless they explicitly convert into the Catholic Church.If there are any among them any who are in invincible ignorance etc it will known only to God.

The Holy Spirit is also present in non-Catholic religions.Yes, in only the good and holy things. There are also ‘errors, deficiencies and superstition’(Dominus Iesus) in these religions where the Holy Spirit cannot be present.Whatever good is found in these religions are a preparation for the Gospel, the members of these religions are oriented towards the Catholic Church and are all called to be members(Notification,Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith relative to Fr. Jacques Dupuis S.J , 2001)

Fr.Leonard Feeney was excommunicted for heresy? There is no Church Document which says Fr.Leonard Feeney of Boston was excommunicated for heresy. He was excommunicated for indiscipline. He did not go to Rome to defend himself.Assuming he was excommunicated for heresy the ordinary Magisterium of a pope or a cardinal's statement does not supersede an infallible teaching, in this case thrice defined.

We need Catholics to approach Wikipedia and ask for a correction.

1. The ex cathedra statements on extra ecclesiam nulla salus must be shown clearly. It must be stated clearly that the ex cathedra dogma says that everyone must be a visible member of the Catholic Church to be saved from Hell.

2. It must present the ordinary Magisterium including Vatican Council II and the Catechism as being in harmony with the ex cathedra teaching.

Presently the information on the Wikipedia entry on extra ecclesiam nulla salus is factually inaccurate.

If Wikipedia persists in its error we need to ask a Judge, if it is factually correct that the ex cathedra dogma says everyone,with no exception, needs to be a visible member of the Catholic Church to go to Heaven and avoid Hell.

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