APPEAL AGAINST MISINFORMATION
We the undersigned persons appeal to a Court of Law in Canada.
1. Name XYZ, Canadian, Address…
2................................................................
3................................................................
4................................................................
5.................................................................
Resource Person : Mr.Lionel Andrades, Catholic in Rome.
Legal firm : X,Canada
1. The Catholic Register (1155 Yonge Street,Suite 401,Toronto, ON M4T 1W2,Canada, Tel: 416-934-3410, Fax: 416-934-3409 E-mail : news@catholicregister.org ) encourages misinformation that Fr.Leonard Feeney was in heresy and error. This is judged from the comments removed and the slant of news of this newspaper.It is also making a parody of Vatican Council II.
Here is the ex cathedra dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus
1. “There is but one universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved.” (Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council, 1215.).So how could he be in heresy? The dogma indicates that everyone with no exception needs to enter the Catholic Church for salvation. The dogma does not say that those in invincible ignorance, with a good conscience or the baptism of desire, do not de facto have to enter the Catholic Church.
2. “We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.” (Pope Boniface VIII, the Bull Unam Sanctam, 302.).
3.“The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.” (Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441.) – from the website Catholicism.org and “No Salvation outside the Church”: Link List, the Three Dogmatic Statements Regarding EENS) http://nosalvationoutsideofthecatholiicchurch.blogspot.com/
3. The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican document Responses to Some Questions Regarding Certain Aspects of the Doctrine on the Church (June 29, 2007) indicates that it is The Catholic Register,Canada which is in heresy. The Catholic Register has never affirmed the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus or interpreted Vatican Council II as being accord with dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. (See CDF RESPONSES IS A WONDERFUL AFFIRMATION OF THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS on the Blog: eucharistandmission February 15, 2010 http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2010/02/cdf-responses-is-wonderful-affirmation.html )
So how can The Catholic Register,Canada suggest that we are all heretics?
The Catholic Register is misrepresenting information about us Catholics and the Catholic Church.
The article by Michael Swan (see copy below) has misrepresented Vatican Council II.
The Catholic Register has never said that:
Vatican Council II says all non Catholics, including Jews, need Catholic Faith and the Baptism of water to avoid Hell (1)
Thousands of Muslims in Canada are sadly to be lost to eternal death in Hell Vatican Council indicates since they are aware of the Church yet do not enter.(2)
The dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus was referred to as ‘the dogma’, the ‘infallible’ teaching by Pope Pius XII (3).He was saying all Jews in Boston, specifically, and other cities like Rome, needed to worship God in the only religion in which God wants all people to be united in. This is also the teaching of Fr. Leonard Feeney, who was not excommunicated for heresy as the Jewish Left media reports in error.
The Catholic Register needs to update their information with St. Pius XII’s teaching that ‘in certain circumstances’ a non Catholic with implicit faith (baptism of desire, invincible ignorance etc) can be saved. (4)
So implicit faith (5) was never in conflict with evangelisation and mission, or with the dogmatic teaching that everyone with no exception needs to enter Jesus’ Mystical Body; the Church, to be saved, from Hell.
_______________________________________________________________________________
1..Ad Gentes 7.
… all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door…’(Emphasis added).2.Ad Gentes 7:
Therefore those men cannot be saved, who though aware that God, through Jesus Christ founded the Church as something necessary, still do not wish to enter into it, or to persevere in it."…-Vatican Council IINote:Vatican Council II indicates that billions of non Catholics in modern cities who know about the Church and yet do not enter are oriented to Hell. They include Jews.
3.
Now, among those things which the Church has always preached and will never cease to preach is contained also that infallible statement by which we are taught that there is no salvation outside the Church.
However, this dogma must be understood in that sense in which the Church herself understands it...-Letter of the Holy Office 1949 (Emphasis added).
4.
In His infinite mercy God has willed that the effects, necessary for one to be saved, of those helps to salvation which are directed toward man's final end, not by intrinsic necessity, but only by divine institution, can also be obtained in certain circumstances when those helps are used only in desire and longing.-Letter of the Holy Office 19495.
Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience. Nor does Divine Providence deny the helps necessary for salvation to those who, without blame on their part, have not yet arrived at an explicit knowledge of God and with His grace strive to live a good life. Whatever good or truth is found amongst them is looked upon by the Church as a preparation for the Gospel.-Lumen Gentium 16,Vatican Council II-Lionel Andrades
E-mail : lionelandrades10@gmail.com
We Catholics who attend in different Rites, Holy Mass, the renactment of Jesus' Supreme Sacrifice on the Cross believe:
1. Every person has to be a member of the Catholic Church though Catholic Faith and the Baptism of water for salvation and there are no exceptions (baptism of desire etc) that we can know of.
2. Implicit Faith (invincible ignorance etc) is not the ordinary means of salvation, which is, the baptism of water and Catholic Faith. So implicit faith is rare, a probability in certain circumstances and unknown to us. Only God can judge.
3. To reject the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus or to change it, is a mortal sin. A person in this condition is not to receive the Eucharist otherwise it is a sacrilege.
4.That everyone with no exception has to enter the visible Church for salvation has been the teaching of the Catholic Church for centuries. It is still the official teaching of the Catholic Church, expressed in Magisteriam documents, including Vatican Council II.
5. Fr. Leonard Feeney was not excommunicated for heresy but for discipline.
_________________________________________________________________________________
A.The traditional teaching of the Church according to Pope Pius XII is that with implicit faith/desire a person can be saved in ‘certain circumstances’(Letter of the Holy Office 1949).So in ‘certain circumstances’, and not in general, according to the Traditional teaching of the Catholic Church there can be persons, saved.
Since only God can judge who these persons are , we do not know them personally or specifically. So their salvation and God’s Judgement can only remain a concept for us.
In His infinite mercy God has willed that the effects, necessary for one to be saved, of those helps to salvation which are directed toward man's final end, not by intrinsic necessity, but only by divine institution, can also be obtained in certain circumstances when those helps are used only in desire and longing.-Letter of the Holy Office 1949
It is something known only in principle, as a thought, intellectually. I call it collectively De jure Salvation. The word may be new but in essence it is a traditional teaching.
B.In contrast those non Catholics whom I meet face to face and know personally and who do not enter the Catholic Church, I know first hand, they are oriented to Hell. I know this because the Church says they need to convert to be saved. So this knowledge is concrete. It is not a concept. It is also based on a Traditional Catholic teaching. I call this De facto Salvation. The word may be new but in essence it refers to a traditional teaching.
A and B are not opposed to each other.
B refers to the dogma in actual fact at the Absolute Level and its expression in word and thought at the human level.
A refers to a concept at the human level of a possible fact that I cannot concretely know but of a possibility all the same.
You could reject A and agree it can be a concept a thought but an erroneous one. Fine. We still agree on the dogma, B.
“Everyone needs to believe in an ex cathedra dogma,” said Bro. Peter John F.I, he is a Friar of the Franciscans of the Immaculate, working at the St. Mary Major Basilica Sacristy.The Filipino Friar laughs and says it is unthinkable for a Catholic not to believe in an ex cathedra dogma. He has in mind the dogma of the Immaculate Conception of Our Lady.Yet outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation is also an ex cathedra dogma.
The dogma above does not say that those in invincible ignorance or implicit faith do not have to enter the Catholic Church.De facto we do not know of any specific case of implicit faith. De jure we accept the possibility. (LG 16).
Lumen Gentium 14 refers to the ordinary means of salvation and Lumen Gentium 16 the extra ordinary means of salvation said Fr. Massimilliano dei Gaspari F.I, an Italian priest and a Superior of the Franciscans of the Immaculate in Rome. His views are shared by Fr. Tullio Rotondo, a diocesan Italian priest in Rome. Fr. Tullio calls attention to St. Leonardo of Port Maurice’s statement that the majority of people are damned to Hell and only a comparatively a few are saved. Vatican Council II (Ad Gentes 7) indicates billions of non Catholics in modern cities of the world today who know about the Jesus and the Catholic Church and yet do not enter are on the way to Hell.
During the pontificate of Pope Benedict XVI the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF) issued Responses to Some questions regarding certain Aspects of the Doctrine on the Church which affirmed the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. It was a repetition of Pope John Paul II’s teaching in Dominus Iesus and the Notification on the book by Fr. Jacques Dupuis S.J. It was in accord with Pope Paul VI's Evangelii Nuntiandi and Vatican Council II‘s Ad Gentes 7 and Lumen Gentium 14.Pope Pius XII called it our ‘infallible’ teaching. (Letter of the Holy Office 1949).
In Responses the CDF states:
This Church, constituted and organised in this world as a society, subsists in the Catholic Church, governed by the successor of Peter and the Bishops in communion with him”.the word “subsists” can only be attributed to the Catholic Church alone precisely because it refers to the mark of unity that we profess in the symbols of the faith (I believe... in the “one” Church); and this “one” Church subsists in the Catholic Church.-Responses to Some Questions Regarding certain Aspects of the Doctrine on the Church.(June 29, 2007 )So Responses repeats the message of Vatican Council II that the Church is a necessity for salvation (Ad Gentes 7, Lumen Gentium 14). De facto everyone needs to enter the Catholic Church; it is a necessity for salvation.
Christ “established here on earth” only one Church and instituted it as a “visible and spiritual community”, that from its beginning and throughout the centuries has always existed and will always exist, and in which alone are found all the elements that Christ himself instituted. “This one Church of Christ, which we confess in the Creed as one, holy, catholic and apostolic […].
De jure (conceptually, in theory, intellectually, in theology) we could debate or discuss exceptions to the need of salvation, those without the baptism of water. However these are exceptions known only to God. They are unknown to us. They are unknown to us since only Jesus can judge. He will decide.
Responses states
If ‘“It follows that these separated churches and Communities…’ was a reference to the ordinary way of salvation then it would contradict Vatican Council II. Since Ad Gentes 7, states “all people” need Catholic Faith and the Baptism of water for salvation. All.
If de facto we know specifically, personally, that someone in ‘these separated churches and Communities’ can be saved, then it would contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
So dejure, conceptually we know “It follows that these separated churches and Communities,...''- is possible. De jure we could debate or discuss this possibility.
De facto it is clear that there are no exceptions to ' Christ “established here on earth” only one Church...'
De facto (in evangelising, in personal contact with non-Catholics) there is no one (Muslim) who specifically has the baptism of desire, who I know is in invincible ignorance or who I can judge has good conscience.
VATICAN COUNCIL II SAYS OUTSIDE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH THERE IS NO SALVATION
Vatican Council II says outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation. Extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
The Catholic Church teaches after Vatican Council II (1965) that all people need to enter the Catholic Church to go to Heaven (Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II). Catholic Faith with the Baptism of water is the normal, ordinary way of salvation for all people (Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II).The Catholic Church is the ordinary way of salvation for all people (Lumen Gentium 14).Non Catholics however can be saved through the extraordinary means of salvation (Lumen Gentium 16).Only God knows who are the non-Catholics saved through the extraordinary means of salvation; the exceptions. We do not know who the exceptions are. We cannot judge. Jesus, the Church, Scripture and Vatican Council II indicate that the priority is Catholic Faith and the Baptism of water for all people.
So everyone needs to enter the Catholic Church which is the like the only Ark of Noah that saves in the Flood (CCC).Non Catholic religions have good things in them. However they are not paths to salvation. All salvation comes through Jesus and His Mystical Body the Church. Those non-Catholics who know the above information and yet do not enter the Church are oriented to Hell (Ad Gentes 7, Lumen Gentium 14).Those non-Catholics participating in inter religious dialogue, are educated. They know. They are oriented to Hell.
Outside the Church there is no salvation. Catholic Faith and the Baptism of water are needed for all people. This is Vatican Council II.
No where in Nostra Aetate, Vatican Council II is it said that non Catholic religions are paths to salvation.
Vatican Council II is in harmony with John 3:5, the Church Fathers, the ex cathedra councils on extra ecclesia nulla salus, the Council of Florence, Evangelii Nuntiandi, Redemptoris Missio, Catechism of the Catholic Church, Dominus Iesus, Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, Notification on Fr. Jacques Dupuis etc. In ‘certain circumstances’ as Pope Pius XII states (Letter of the Holy Office 1949) those with implicit faith, those who are not Catholics ,can be saved (without Catholic Faith and the Baptism of water).So we cannot interpret ‘It follows that these separated churches and Communities….’ as referring to the ordinary way of salvation. Since only in 'certain circumstances’; exceptionally and known to God only can members of separated Churches and communities be saved without Catholic Faith in the Catholic Church. The ordinary way of salvation is the baptism of water and Catholic Faith. For example the Catechism states that the Catholic Church knows of no way to eternal beatitude other than the baptism of water (given to adults with Catholic Faith). So this is the ordinary way. Yet CCC 1257 also says salvation is not limited to the Sacraments. So here we have the dejure, extraordinary,exceptional means of salvation. In a way it is irrelevant to us since it will be judged only by Jesus.
_________________________________________________________________________________
Anti-Semitism still surrounds Society of St. Pius X
Wednesday, 24 June 2009
Written by Michael Swan, The Catholic Register,
Views : 1005
Society of St. Pius X superior general Bishop Bernard Fellay
TORONTO - While Society of St. Pius X superior general Bishop Bernard Fellay visited Canada in June on his way to illicitly ordain two seminarians in Winona, Minn., the anti-Semitic theology of the traditionalist society continued to haunt the breakaway sect.
The Vatican II-rejectionist Society of St. Pius X has been in the news since Pope Benedict XVI on Jan. 21 remitted the 1988 ruling of excommunication on four bishops, including Fellay, ordained that year by Bishop Marcel Lefebvre. One of the four, Bishop Richard Williamson, was seen on Swedish television the same day his excommunication was lifted denying any Jews were killed in the Holocaust. The remarks came from an interview last November.
Fellay, who was in Toronto for a mid-June pastoral visit to the Society’s parish and an interview with Basilian Father Tom Rosica on Salt + Light TV June 15, told The Catholic Register that Williamson’s anti-Semitic views and opinions on the Holocaust were a surprise to him and were purely personal opinions that do not represent the position of the Society.
“There is a certain freedom in the Society,” Fellay said. “We do respect personal opinions. But that does not mean that we agree with them — but there is a freedom of thought.”
While the Society’s American and European web sites have been scrubbed of a number of anti-Jewish screeds in recent months, its Canadian web site still features a 2003 essay by Fr. Emmanuel Herkel claiming “the Antichrist will be Jewish” (www.sspx.ca/Communicantes/Sep2003/antichrist.htm ).
Herkel, who works for the Society of St. Pius X in Calgary, also claims the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon were a good thing because they have alerted Christians to the “Eastern barbarism” of Muslims. He argues Islam has conspired against Christianity and the West for a millennium.
While Fellay claims his society is not anti-Semitic, Lefebvre and his followers have always vehemently rejected Nostra Aetate, the Second Vatican Council’s ecumenical declaration on the relationship between the church and non-Christian religions, particularly with Judaism.
In an Easter letter to friends and benefactors, Fellay blames “Jews and progressives” for the controversy over Williamson’s opinions.
“What does the Pope really think? Where does he stand? The Jews and the progressives demand of him to choose between Vatican II and us,” Fellay wrote.
In his interview with The Catholic Register Fellay claimed to respect the covenants between God and the Jewish people.
"They are the elected people by God, and it’s in this very chosen people that Our Lord came to the world. So there is a very, very special relation between them and God. Definitely then, also between us and them,” he said. “Now the fact that they did not receive Him, or did not accept Him, as St. John says in the beginning of his Gospel, I may say that’s the big problem for them, not for us.”
While Fellay dismisses Williamson’s views on the Holocaust as merely personal, official publications and web sites of the Society of St. Pius X have repeatedly indulged in classic anti-Jewish rhetoric. Articles claiming that “Judaism is inimical to all nations in general, and in a special manner to Christian nations,” and that “Jews must not live together with Christians” have disappeared from the Society’s American web site in recent months.
Herkel’s theories about Jews — including that “History has demonstrated that Jews, scattered throughout the world in small groups, are not often assimilated into any other nation” — remains on the Canadian web site.
Several attempts to speak with Herkel before deadline were unsuccessful.
Herkel’s bizarre theories about the antichrist, Jews and the end of the world are a long way from anything like Catholic theology, said archdiocese of Toronto ecumenical and interfaith affairs officer Fr. Damian MacPherson.
“His offending positions against Muslims and Jews clearly separates and places him outside and apart from the inspired documents, for example ‘We Remember: A Reflection on the Shoah’ and Nostra Aetate,” said MacPherson.
Eric Vernon, Canadian Jewish Congress representative to the Canadian Christian-Jewish Consultation, called Herkel’s essay “anti-Semitic and certainly offensive.”
“We need to shed a light on these guys,” said Vernon. “Our (Canadian) freedoms and our rights are delicate and the garden constantly needs to be weeded.”
Fellay told The Catholic Register he welcomes moves by Pope Benedict XVI to have the Society of St. Pius X deal more directly with the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Vatican spokesman Fr. Frederico Lombardi told Catholic News Service that Ecclesia Dei, the special Vatican commission for dealing with traditionalist groups, would be folded into the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith “soon.” The change is expected in July, when Ecclesia Dei chief Cardinal Dario Castrillon Hoyos retires on turning 80.
The opportunity to speak with the Vatican more directly about doctrinal matters represents an opportunity to heal the rift between Rome and the Society of St. Pius X, Fellay said.
“Many of the problems that the church is encountering today flow from, derive from doctrinal problems,” he said. “If we can really get down to the crux of the matter we are really happy.”
__________________________________________________________________________________
Posts
