Wednesday, December 16, 2009

MORE CATHOLIC ORGANISATIONS AND RELIGIOUS ARE SAYING POPE PIUS XII WAS FALLIBLE


EWTN insists Pope Pius XII was fallible.

So do priests of the Legionaries of Christ, one of them my former Spiritual Director, Fr. Andrez Martinez L.C. This was when I was a seminarian for a month (2002) at the Pontifical International Maria Mater Ecclesia College, the seminary of the Legionaries of the Christ in Rome. This was also the teaching of the Rector of another seminary, the Pontifical Beda College, Mons. Roderick Strange. (2002-2003).Mons. Strange is still the Rector of the Beda, the seminary for late vocations under the bishops of England and Wales.


They insist that Fr. Leonard Feeney was excommunicated for heresy.

He was excommunicated for teaching that de facto all people with no exceptions, needed to enter the Catholic Church to go to Heaven and avoid Hell.

This is also the ex-cathedra teaching of three Councils and popes. So it means that Pope Pius XII contradicted the ex cathedra teaching on extra ecclesiam nulla salus.So he was fallible on a faith issue. Since both he and the other popes cannot be correct. Either de facto everybody needs to enter the Catholic Church Jesus’ Mystical Body for salvation or everybody does not have to de facto enter e.g. those in invincible ignorance and with a good conscience.

The Vatican has never issued a clarification on the Boston Case and the political position of the Jewish Left media is that the Church has changed its position on the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. This is also the view of The National Catholic Reporter and The Tablet, their sister organisations.

Apologist Patrick Madrid also states that Fr. Leonard Feeney was excommunicated for heresy.

May be he innocently holds this view but he has not corrected it in comments made recently and in questions asked of him on this blog.

PATRICK MADRID is the publisher of Envoy Magazine, a journal of contemporary Catholic thought, and he is director of the Envoy Institute of Belmont Abbey College. Since its inception in 1996, the Envoy team has garnered numerous journalism awards, including several first-place awards in the magazine-of-the-year “General Excellence” category from the Catholic Press Association.


Patrick is the author or editor of 14 books and booklets on Catholic themes including, Pope Fiction, Search and Rescue, Does the Bible Really Say That?, and 150 Bible Verses Every Catholic Should Know. He edited and co-authored the acclaimed multi-volume Surprised by Truth series (over 500,000 combined copies in print in English and Spanish).-from the website of Patrick Madrid


It may be mentioned that the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the archbishop of Boston, Cardinal Richard Cushing did not specifically condemn Fr. Leonard Feeney for heresy. It affirmed the dogma and so supported Fr. Leonard Feeney’s so called ‘rigorist position’.

The first part of the Letter referred to the dogma and the second part to the disobedience of Fr. Leonard Feeney and the St. Benedict’s Center to the Archbishop of Boston. Fr. Feeney was excommunicated for ‘disobedience’.


The excommunication was lifted without the priest having to recant.


Meanwhile the Archbishop of Boston was never excommunicated and neither the Jesuits of Boston College, for not affirming the dogma publicly.

NO CONTRADICTION FROM ANGELICUM UNIVERSITY,ROME:CATHOLIC CHURCH INDICATES PROPHET MOHAMMAD ORIENTED TO HELL (LG 14)



The Dec.8,2009 blog entry Angelicum University says prophet Mohammad and Iranian and Muslim leaders oriented to Hell’ on this blog eucharistandmission has not been contradicted by the Angelicum University Public Relations department.



A copy of the report had been sent to Rev. Alejandro Crosthwaite,OP, Head of Public Relations ( prpust@yahoo.com).



TUESDAY, DECEMBER 8, 2009

ANGELICUM UNIVERSITY SAYS PROPHET MOHAMMAD AND IRANIAN PRESIDENT AND MUSLIM LEADERS ORIENTED TO HELL


The Pontifical University of St. Thomas Aquinas in Rome, Angelicum, says the Prophet Mohammad and the Iranian President and Muslim leaders are oriented to the fires of Hell.

On Dec.3, 2009 during a lecture at the Angelicum University Fr. Robert Christian O.P said that if a non Catholic would willfully turn his back on all the gifts God has given him that could be terrible and contumacious. He was indicating that those non Catholics who know about Jesus and the Church and yet do not convert cannot be saved (Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II).

Lumen Gentium, Vatican Council II numbers 14,15 and 16 is a reiteration of the principle of extra ecclesiam nulla salus said Fr. Robert Christian on Dec.3, the Feast Day of St.Francis Xavier. Fr. Robert Christian indicated that it applies to those ‘knowingly’ outside the Church.

To know and to be outside the Church he said would be ‘contumacious’.


Those in invincible ignorance and with a baptism of desire he noted can be saved. This, however does not apply to educated Muslims and those informed about the Catholic Church.Educated informed Muslims millions in the present times, do not have Sanctifying Grace. They know about the Catholic Church and still remain in heresy and grave sin - they face eternal death

The Catechism of the Catholic Church and Vatican Council II indicate that Mohammad was not saved and was oriented to Hell barring the exceptional.

The message of Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church is that those non Catholics who have had the Gospel preached to them and who know that the Catholic Church is the one, true Church of God, founded by His Son Jesus Christ, and who yet do not enter through baptism and Catholic Faith will go to Hell (they cannot be saved).

Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by God through Jesus Christ would refuse to enter her or to remain in her could not be saved. - Decree on the Missionary activity of the Church, Ad Gentes # 7, Vatican Council II ( See also Lumen Gentium 14)

Mohammad knew about Jesus Christ and the Church Jesus founded. This is clear in the Quran. Yet he refused to enter it. He had the Gospel preached to him. His soul, Catholic teaching indicates is oriented towards Hell.

Many Muslims who have had the Gospel preached to them, who know that God the Father founded his only Church through his Son Jesus Christ. They know that they need to join this saving-Church because this is what God wants of them. Yet they do not do so. They are oriented towards the Inferno at the time of their death.


The Catholic Church teaches us that the religion Muhammad founded has good things but it is not a path to heaven. It also has errors and deficiencies (Dominus Iesus). It carries the fourth century Arian heresy which denies Jesus is God. It denies the Trinity and the Crucifixion of Jesus.

One can appreciate many good and holy things in the religion Muhammad founded .This report here hence is not a condemnation of Muhammad and Islam. Neither does the Catholic Church condemn either.

The sin of heresy however is a Mortal Sin.

‘…those who do not believe will be condemned’ says Jesus (Mk.16:15-16).

They have chosen their condemnation. They have chosen eternal death. Muhammad, like Gandhi knew about the Catholic Faith. They chose otherwise.

Mohammad, like Gandhi, was born with Original Sin. Mohammad carried the image of Adam (1 Cor.15:45-49).Through Baptism ‘we bear the image of the heavenly one’- Jesus. Muhammad died with the stain of Original Sin. He could not say that Jesus is Lord. He who cannot say that Jesus is Lord is the Antichrist the Bible says.

Dante saw Mohammad in Hell. He was there for causing division.

Dante saw Hell with caves and special tortures for different people. There was fire and water, demons and the presence of Satan. He saw suffering which would never ever end in time. The Catholic saints Teresa of Avila and Maria Faustina Kowalski also describe Hell similarly. Dante’s experience of Hell can also be compared with Sr. Josepha Menendez. It is similar to Hell shown by Our Lady to Sr. Lucia at Fatima.

The Catholic Church, however, does not officially name any particular person in Hell. It does not even say that Judas is in Hell (or Heaven) even though Scripture indicates that Judas’ soul is in Hell.

The dogma extra ecclesiam null salus means de facto everyone needs to enter the Catholic Church for salvation, and there are no exceptions.(Bull Unam Sanctam, Council of Florence, Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston 1949). Everyone includes Muslims.

De jure (in principle) a Muslim can be saved without the baptism of water but this is an exception known to God. The ordinary way of salvation is the baptism of water and Catholic Faith.(Catechism of the Catholic Church 1257).Only God will judge who are saved through invincible ignorance or a good conscience.

A good conscience means choosing to enter the Catholic Church. Since the Catholic Church has rejected the theology of religions (Dupuis, CDF, 2001). We cannot say that Muslims will be judged according to their religion and so have to live their conscience according to their religion which is an equal path to salvation as the Catholic Church. This is a secular view. Hence the Catholic Church would also be critical of 'suicide bombers' from even the religious point of view.

Fr. Robert Christian was appointed as a professor at the Angelicum by the Master General of the Dominican Order in Rome. His views on Lumen Gentium, Vatican Council II are also shared it seems by the other professors of theology at the Angelicum.

These are also the views of the other Pontifical Universities in Rome, Gregorian, John Lateran, Santa Croce, Regina Apostolorum etc.