Thursday, December 8, 2016

O Sanctissima

O Sanctissima

03:22
Hymn to the Immaculat
https://gloria.tv/video/f8ULrxGag6dn14BXmkdDGW24j

Hundreds of thousands of pilgrims at Marian sanctuary in Pakistan today : Mariamabad

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Faisalabad (AsiaNews) - For the approximately 2 million Catholics of Pakistan these are days of celebration. Many of them, in recent days, have taken to the road on a journey to Mariamabad, the village of Mary, in the district of Shekhupura...
Among the pilgrims there are also followers of other religions. For Muslims, the Grotto of Mariamabad has a special meaning because it relates the story of a miracle that saw as the protagonist a young woman of Islam.
Sardar John, a 73-year-old catechist from Faisalabad, tells the story: "A Muslim girl used to go to the Nuns of the village to ask for medicine. She was deeply distressed because she could not bear children. One day the nuns told us that 'we should do our best' to help. We did not know what they meant. When we went with the woman to the grotto it became clear what they had in mind: the 'our best' was to ask Our Lady’s intercession. The woman came with us and asked herself, weeping and begging Mary according to her own tradition. After nine months the woman bore a child. Her family of tribal Muslims came to the cave with a cow with a pendant of gold around its neck as their offering in thanksgiving to Our Lady for her intercession.
http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Pakistan:-Christians,-Muslims-and-Hindu-pilgrims-in-Mariamabad,-the-village-of-Mary-16265.html
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National Marian Shrine, Mariamabad

From Wikipedia,
The National Marian Shrine in MariamabadPakistan is a National Shrine and the site of an annual pilgrimage for the September 8 feast of the birth of Mary. This event has been taking place since 1949. Mariamabad means city of Mary in the Urdu language.
Mariamabad has existed for over a century making it one of Pakistan's oldest Catholic settlements. Located about 80 km from Punjab's capital of Lahore, it covers an area of 835 hectares (2000 acres) and has become the destination for over one million pilgrims a year.
Mariamabad began in 1892. Observing the misery and oppression of the newly converted Christians in the district of Sialkot, Capuchin Bishop Van Den Bosch purchased 150 acres (0.61 km2) of government land for 650,000 rupees (US$29,545) for Christians to live and work on. In 1893, three priests and three Christian families moved to the land.
Pilgrims travel by foot, bullock carts, bicycles, buses and trucks to Mariamabad. The shrine also houses the Church of St. Mary and St. Joseph established by Belgian Capuchins on December 8, 1898.
A prominent feature of the shrine is the Marian grotto on a hill where a three-and-a-half-meter statue of Mary stands.
There are stalls selling religious posters and cards, crosses, rosaries, candles, incense sticks and other religious objects, as well as cold drinks, food and sweets to cater to the pilgrims that travel from all over Pakistan and even overseas.
On September 10, 2005, armed men waiting near the village stopped buses bringing pilgrims and robbed the passengers of their valuables.
The Catholic National Commission for Justice and Peace also filed a formal complaint with the police against the persons who looted buses, manhandled and searched women, and desecrated the Cross at the pilgrimage.
In September 2005, Catholics from across Pakistan took part in the country's first-ever National Eucharistic Congress. More than 100,000 Catholics came to publicly honour the Eucharist during the three-day event. The event was organised under the guidance of Archbishop Lawrence Saldanha, of Lahore who is president of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of Pakistan.
In 2006, the Parish priest was Father Emanuel Bernard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Marian_Shrine,_Mariamabad


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No denial from Michael Voris and the Download panel : afraid to affirm Catholic doctrine on salvation theology,Vatican Council II,extra ecclesiam nulla salus etc

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There is no denial from Michael Voris and the Download program.They criticized the Alpha program.It did not have a Catholic ecclesiology with Catholic doctrines they said.While they will not  affirm Catholic doctrine on salvation theology and Vatican Council II.
I had mentioned in a blog post on EucharistandMission :-
1.The Dowload panel do not profess the Faith by saying there are no known cases of the baptism of desire in our reality for it to be an exception or relevant to the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.This is something obvious.It is common sense. We cannot see or meet people on earth saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.CMTV agrees with me. They do not profess the Catholic Faith here.
2.So CMTV does not state that there are no exceptions to the Feeneyite interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus and so the Holy Office 1949 and Pope Pius XII were wrong and Fr. Leonard Feeney and the St.Benedict Center,traditionalists, were correct.For them there are exceptions. They agree with me. There is no denial here.
3.The Secretary to the Archbishop of Detroit  will still demand on social media that Michael Voris publically affirm that there are known cases of the baptism of desire in 2016.He has to say that the Emperor is wearing clothes.He compromises.Michael Voris does not deny this.
4.The Archdiocese Secretary in Detroit  who approves of the Alpha program, will say that there are known and explicit exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was interpreted by St.Francis Xavier and the 16th century missionaries.Michael Voris agrees to remain in good standing with the liberal Archdiocese.This is a denial of Catholic doctrine with traditional theology.He does not deny this.
5.Dr.Robert Fastiggi and Dr.Mark Latkovic among others at the Theology Faculty of the Sacred Heart Seminary in Detroit are saying just this. They agree with the Archdiocese Curia.Michael Voris and the Download panel has to agree with this nonsense that is, there are explicit exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus in 2016.He agrees with all this. No  denial from the Download panel.
5.Michael Voris has to repeat what is ridiculous.He does not deny this. How can he claim like the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 that hypothetical cases are not hypothetical but objective ? But he is suggesting this.
How can he claim that these allegedly objective cases are exceptions to all needing to be incorporated into the Catholic Church as members? Irrational but he will not deny it. He remains politically correct with the Left.
How could he as an adult and Catholic say something so ridiculous? Yet he does do so to protect his interests.
6.Michael Voris finds himself in the same position as those U.S bishops who do not want to deny the Faith,but now they are 'afraid of professing the Faith in all its glory.'The U.S bishops whom he criticizes are just like Michael Voris.They are following him.No denial here from CMTV.
7.Michael Voris and the Download panel affirm visible for- us- baptism of desire.It is a 'visible' exception to the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.So they agree with Pope Benedict who in the interview with daily Avvenire said extra ecclesiam nulla salus is no more like it was for the 16th century missionaries. There is 'a developmen't he said  with Vatican Council II.For the CMTV panel too there has been a development with Vatican Council II. They are liberals here.
8.For the CMTV panel too there is 'a development' with Vatican Council II. Being saved in invincible ignorance(LG 16) and the famous case of the  unknown catechumen who sought the baptism of water before he died ( LG 14) refer to visible and not invisible cases. So this is 'a development' in the Church. CMTV accepts this.They accept the new theology which is based on the baptism of desire being a visible exception to all needing to be incorporated into the Church as a member.No denial here.
9.So CMTV too, like Pope Benedict and Abraham Foxman and the Archbishop of Detroit, interpret Vatican Council II as a rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Vatican Council II has the hermeneutic of rupture with  the Syllabus of Errors and Tradition in general, which is largely based on the dogma EENS with its exclusivist ecclesiology.This is a rejection of a rational alternative interpretation of Vatican Council II.No comment from them.
10.I affirm invisible for us baptism of desire and so it is easy to affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was known to the 16th century missionaries.
So with invisible and hypothetical cases of the baptism of desire etc there are no exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II to the Feeneyite interpretation of EENS.
For me Vatican Council II can only profess, in its text, an ecumenism of return.This is not true for Michael Voris.He has no comment here.
CMTV does not correct me and nor do they say that I am correct and they were wrong all these years.For so many years now they choose to remain silent and politically correct.
11.Since there is no known salvation outside the Church for me there cannot be an Anonymous Christian theology.CMTV supports the Anonymous Christian theology since they assume there is known salvation outside the Church.No comment from Brad Ellis or any one else on the panel.
12.Since there is no known salvation outside the Church, all political and social laws must have as its centre Jesus Christ as known in the Catholic Church, the only Church He founded, outside of which there is no salvation.This is important to save souls.This is what I believe.This is not the position of CMTV since they accept known salvation outside the Church.
SUMMARY
A.Michael Voris will not affirm Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus.He supports Cushingite extra ecclesiam nulla salus, in which the baptism of desire is an explicit exception to the traditional interpretation of the dogma.
B.He will not affirm Vatican Council II without the irrational premise and conclusion.So the Council becomes a rupture with Tradition for him and the Download panel.
C.He interprets the baptism of desire as being visible instead of invisible.So the baptism of desire is an exception to the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Here he also contradicts the Principle of Non Contradiction.
D.Since there is known salvation outside the Church for them at CMTV, theologically they reject an ecumenism of return, even though otherwise they say that Protestants need to enter the Church.
E.Since there is known salvation outside the Church for them they theologically reject the traditional teachings of the Church on the Social Reign of Christ the King over all political legislation.Non Catholics can be saved outside the Church so why should all political and social laws have Jesus as known in the Catholic Church, as its centre?
F.They are politically correct with the Archdiocese of Detroit and the Jewish Left(ADL etc).-Lionel Andrades


DECEMBER 3, 2016


Something important was missing in Michael Voris and the CMTV's The Download :Alpha program

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/12/something-important-was-missing-in.html

DECEMBER 4, 2016


Why are Catholics afraid of professing the Faith in all its glory? asks Church Militant TV : The Download

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/12/why-are-catholics-afraid-of-professing.html

Wednesday, December 7, 2016

Ecclesia Dei ha aprobado la Misa del Rito Tridentino pero solo con la nueva eclesiología en 2017: Sumergum Pontificum peregrinación

Ecclesia Dei ha aprobado la Misa del Rito Tridentino pero solo con la nueva eclesiología en 2017: Sumergum Pontificum peregrinación.


Ecclesia Dei has approved the Tridentine Rite Mass but only with the new ecclesiology in 2017 : Summorum Pontificum pilgrimage
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/12/pontifical-commission-ecclesia-dei-has.html




DECEMBER 7, 2016

Pontificia Commissione Ecclesia Dei ha approvato il pellegrinaggio Summorum Pontificum e Messa Tridentina nel sett. 2017 solo con la nuova ecclesiologia

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/12/pontificia-commissione-ecclesia-dei-ha.html
-Lionel Andrades


Ecclesia Dei zatwierdził trydencka Rite Mass.It jest dopuszczony tylko dla nowej eklezjologii 2017: Summorum Pontificum pielgrzymki (polski)

Ecclesia Dei zatwierdził trydencka Rite Mass.It jest dopuszczony tylko dla nowej eklezjologii 2017: Summorum Pontificum pielgrzymki.

Ecclesia Dei has approved the Tridentine Rite Mass but only with the new ecclesiology in 2017 : Summorum Pontificum pilgrimage

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/12/pontifical-commission-ecclesia-dei-has.html


DECEMBER 7, 2016

Pontificia Commissione Ecclesia Dei ha approvato il pellegrinaggio Summorum Pontificum e Messa Tridentina nel sett. 2017 solo con la nuova ecclesiologia

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/12/pontificia-commissione-ecclesia-dei-ha.html
-Lionel Andrades







Ecclesia Dei has approved the Tridentine Rite Mass but only with the new ecclesiology in 2017 : Summorum Pontificum pilgrimage



The Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei has approved the Summorum Pontificum  pilgrimage for Sept 14-17, 2017, with the Tridentine Rite Mass allowed to be offered only with the new ecclesiology.It accepts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as having known exceptions.
Priests who offer the Tridentine Rite Mass with the old ecclesiology based on the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as having no objective exceptions in the present times, could be suspended.It would be ideological for the Vatican.
This has been mentioned to the Ecclesia Dei in the past and  there has been no denial.
When the 16th century missionaries offered the Latin Mass it was with the old ecclesiology.The dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus did not have any known or unknown exceptions for St.Francis Xavier.
However Pope Benedict announced a few months back that extra ecclesiam nulla salus is no more like it was for the 1th century missionaries. There were 'developments' with Vatican Council II. He meant that the baptism of desire etc refer to visible and not invisible cases. So it was an objective exception, it was inferred, to the traditional interpretation of the dogma which says all need to be incorporated into the Church as members.
So he was clear that there was a new theology based on known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as promoted in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston.
The Letter says everyone does not need to be incorporated into the Catholic Church as a member while the dogma says the opposite.
So to interpret the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as did Fr. Leonard Feeney and the St. Benedict Center is prohibited. This can no more be the ecclesiology of the priest offering the Latin Mass or the Novus Ordo Mass in 2017.
So the Mass approved by  Ecclesia Dei for 2017 too in its ecclesiology is irrational, non traditional and heretical.
It has an impediment and yet for ideological reasons it is approved by  Ecclesia Dei.It is magisterial according to the persons in the Vatican; the people. However it  is a rupture according to magisterial documents including Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14).It is also a rupture according to the magisterium of persons in the past; the past Church Councils and popes.
-Lionel Andrades

http://blog.messainlatino.it/2016/11/un-convegno-e-un-pellegrinaggio-per-i.html
https://populussummorumpontificum.com/2016/11/27/towards-sumpont2017/#more-664


MARCH 7, 2014


Summorum Pontificum : those who do not use an irrational premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II are called reactionarieshttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/03/summorum-pontificum-those-who-do-not.html


MARCH 7, 2014


Summorum Pontificum does not say if Vatican Council II is to be interpreted with or without the false premise

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/03/summorum-pontificum-does-not-say-if.html

 AUGUST 25, 2016


The Latin Mass is available in Rome but not the Tridentine Rite Mass.That has been effectivly prohibited by the contemporary magisterium and the political Left.It is not there even at the SSPX chapelhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/08/the-latin-mass-is-available-in-rome-but.html

NOVEMBER 19, 2013


Ecclesiology is not dependent on the liturgyhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/11/ecclesiology-is-not-dependent-on-liturgy.html


 DECEMBER 3, 2011


IMPEDIMENT FOR THOSE WHO OFFER THE TRADITIONAL LATIN MASS ?

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2011/12/impediment-for-those-who-offer.html

Pontificia Commissione Ecclesia Dei ha approvato il pellegrinaggio Summorum Pontificum e Messa Tridentina nel sett. 2017 solo con la nuova ecclesiologia

La Pontificia Commissione Ecclesia Dei ha approvato il pellegrinaggio Summorum Pontificum 14-17 Settembre, 2017 con il Messa Tridentina per essere offerto solo con la nuova ecclesiologia che accetta il dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus avere eccezioni conosciute.

I sacerdoti che offrono il Messa Tridentina con il vecchio ecclesiologia basata sul dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus non avere eccezioni oggettive, nei tempi presenti, potrebbe essere sospesi.Sarebbe ideologica per il Vaticano.Potrebbero essere sospesi.

Questo è stato menzionato al Ecclesia Dei in passato, ma non vi è stato alcun rifiuto.

Quando i missionari 16 ° secolo offerto la Messa in latino è stato con il vecchio ecclesiologia. Il dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus non ha avuto alcuna eccezione di noti, per San Francesco Saverio.

Tuttavia Papa Benedetto ha annunciato qualche mese fa che extra ecclesiam nulla salus non è più come era per i missionari 16 ° secolo. Ha detto che ci sono stati 'sviluppi' con il Concilio Vaticano II.Per lui il battesimo di desiderio ecc riferiscono a casi visibili e non invisibili. Così è stato un'eccezione oggettiva, è stato dedotto, al tradizionale interpretazione  del dogma sulla salvezza esclusivo nella Chiesa e la necessità per tutti incorporati come membri.

Quindi era chiaro che c'era una nuova teologia basata sulle eccezioni conosciute al dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus in base alla Lettera del Sant'Uffizio 1949 l'arcivescovo di Boston.

Quindi, per interpretare il dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus come ha fatto don Leonard Feeney e il Sant Benedetto Center  è vietata. Così la Messa approvato da Ecclesia Dei per il 2017 nel suo ecclesiolgia è irrazionale, non tradizionale e eretica.

Ha un impedimento e tuttavia per motivi ideologici essa è approvata dalla Ecclesia Dei.It è magistrale in base alle persone in Vaticano. Tuttavia si tratta di una rottura con documenti magisteriali, tra cui il Concilio Vaticano II (AG 7, LG 14) .E 'anche la rottura con il magistero di persone del passato, prima del 1949.

ENGLISH TRANSLATION
The Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei has approved the Summorum Pontificum pilgrimage and Tridentine Mass in Sept 2017 to be offered only with the new ecclesiology.

The Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei has approved the Summorum Pontificum  pilgrimage Sept 14-17, 2017. with the Tridentine Rite Mass to be offered only with the new ecclesiology which accepts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus having known exceptions.
Priests who offer the Tridentine Rite Mass with the old ecclesiology based on the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus having no objective exceptions in the present times, could be suspended.It would be ideological for the Vatican.
This has been mentioned to the Ecclesia Dei in the past but there has been no denial.
When the 16th century missionaries offered the Latin Mass it was with the old ecclesiology.The dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus did not have any known or unknown exceptions for St.Francis Xavier.
However Pope Benedict has announced a few months back that extra ecclesiam nulla salus is no more like it was for the 1th century missionaries. He said that there were developments with Vatican Council II He meant that the baptism of desire etc refer to visible and not invisible cases. So it was an objective exception, it was inferred, to the traditional interpretatiion of the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Church and all needing to be incorporated as members.
So he was clear that there was a new theology based on known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus based on the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston.
So to interpret the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as did Fr. Leonard Feeney and the St. Benedict Center is prohibited. This can no more be the ecclesiology of the priest offering the Latin Mass or the Novus Ordo Mass.
So the Mass approved by  Ecclesia Dei for 2017 too in its ecclesiology is irrational, non traditional and heretical.
It has an impediment and yet for ideological reasons it is approved by  Ecclesia Dei.It is magisterial according to the persons in the Vatican. However it  is a rupture with magisterial documents including Vatican Council II (Ag 7, LG 14).It is also rupture with the magisterium of persons of the past, before the Council of Trent.
-Lionel Andrades

http://blog.messainlatino.it/2016/11/un-convegno-e-un-pellegrinaggio-per-i.html
https://populussummorumpontificum.com/2016/11/27/towards-sumpont2017/#more-664


MARCH 7, 2014

Summorum Pontificum : those who do not use an irrational premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II are called reactionarieshttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/03/summorum-pontificum-those-who-do-not.html


MARCH 7, 2014

Summorum Pontificum does not say if Vatican Council II is to be interpreted with or without the false premise

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/03/summorum-pontificum-does-not-say-if.html

 AUGUST 25, 2016

The Latin Mass is available in Rome but not the Tridentine Rite Mass.That has been effectivly prohibited by the contemporary magisterium and the political Left.It is not there even at the SSPX chapelhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/08/the-latin-mass-is-available-in-rome-but.html

NOVEMBER 19, 2013

Ecclesiology is not dependent on the liturgyhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/11/ecclesiology-is-not-dependent-on-liturgy.html


 DECEMBER 3, 2011

IMPEDIMENT FOR THOSE WHO OFFER THE TRADITIONAL LATIN MASS ?

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2011/12/impediment-for-those-who-offer.html