Tuesday, April 30, 2024

Were there literal and known cases of non Catholics saved outside the Church in 1949 ?

 

                                                                                                                                                                     - Lionel Andrades


 APRIL 30, 2024

There are no lliteral cases of the baptism of desire for Bishop Athanasius Schneider and also Fr. Leonard Feeney

 






-Lionel Andrades


Medjugorje - Valeria di Napoli, Italia

There are no lliteral cases of the baptism of desire for Bishop Athanasius Schneider and also Fr. Leonard Feeney

 








-Lionel Andrades

Healing Prayer at Medugorje 29.04.2024

 https://video.marytv.tv/watch/mRFo3esgpVG?ctx=yDj3O1j6sO8%2CmP9bEiEsi5K

Why should the rank and file Catholic confuse what is invisible as being visible, subjective as being objective, unseen as being seen, implicit as being explicit ? Cardinal Napier still feels obligated to do this.

Cardinal Wilfred Napier o.f.m will hopefully be present at the next Conclave of Cardinals to elect a pope, when hopefully they will interpret Vatican Council II only rationally. The former Archbishop of Durban, South Africa will not vote since he has crossed the age limit. I met him on the Rome metro twice and briefly spoke to him and have communicated with him on Twitter, a few years back. He was afraid of being considered a Feeneyite instead of the common Cushingite.

So the whole of South Africa was being given a false catechism and the Gospel was not being preached .Since the cardinal wanted to protect his career and worldly interests. A typical cardinal.

Can you imagine Cardinal Napier saying in S. Africa that all non Catholics need Catholic faith and the baptism of water ( Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II)  for salvation and that hypothetical cases, invisible people in 1949-2024, are not visible examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church  and so they do not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ?

Even the other conservative cardinal, Raymond Leo Burke, is preserving his peace.

Cardinal Napier still teaches error to preserve his ecclesiastical status and is not willing to dialogue on this issue.

One day, when all the cardinals realize that Vatican Council II (rational) is the only honest choice they have, the Church automatically returns to Tradition.

Now Cardinal Napier and the other cardinals are allowing Catholic children to be taught a false catechism, to please the political Left.

The issue now – no more is conservative and liberal cardinals in opposition. Since Vatican Council II is no more liberal, it is no more dividing the Church. Every cardinal is obligated to interpret Vatican Council II, the Catechism of the Catholic Church and other Magisterial Documents, only rationally and not irrationally i.e. LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, always refer to hypothetical cases in 2024.

The liberal cardinals can no more interpret LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, as being physically visible and known cases in 2024.

Why should the rank and file Catholic confuse what is invisible as being visible, subjective as being objective, unseen as being seen, implicit as being explicit ? Card. Napier still feels obligated to do this. - Lionel Andrades



JULY 15, 2023

The College of Cardinals can no more interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and neither elect a pope who does the same.

JULY 12, 2023

The College of Cardinals can no more interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and neither elect a pope who does the same.

 


The College of Cardinals can no more interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and neither elect a pope who does the same.

The people now know that Vatican Council II can be rationally. So there is the Catholic obligation to interpret Vatican Council II etc only rationally and traditionally. So for the popes and cardinals have to affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) according to the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) which did not mention any exceptions.

They also have to reject the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston which wrongly assumed   of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance was physically visible examples of salvation outside the Church  and practical exceptions for Feeneyite EENS or EENS according to the Church Councils ( Council of Florence 1442 etc). - Lionel Andrades



JULY 11, 2023

The College of Cardinals are not eligible to vote at the next Conclave to elect a pope, if they are dishonest and interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally. They must interpret LG 8, 14, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II as not referring to physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church. Lumen Gentium 8, 14, 16 etc, are not practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX. There is no rupture with the Catechisms of Trent and Pius X. So future cardinals would have to be only traditionalists.

The College of Cardinals are not eligible to vote at the next Conclave to elect a pope, if they are dishonest and interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally. They must interpret LG 8, 14, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II as not referring to physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church. Lumen Gentium 8, 14, 16 etc, are not practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX. There is no rupture with the Catechisms of Trent and Pius X. So future cardinals would have to be only traditionalists.

The cardinals were  unethical on Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Councils, Catechisms, and EENS etc when they elected Pope Francis. They were interpreting Church Documents irrationally and non traditionally. This was political.

The cardinals are presently in public mortal sins of faith.They are in heresy and schism and it is official. They cannot condone this any more with Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally. The people know that the Council can be interpreted rationally. This is the only moral choice the cardinals have.

ATHANASIUS CREED TWO INTERPRETATIONS

For me the Athanasius Creed says all need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation (to avoid Hell). For the cardinals all do not need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation. Since for them there are known and visible cases of non Catholics saved outside the Church in 1949-2023.

For the Nicene Creed says ‘I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins ‘For me it refers to only the baptism of water which is physically visible and repeatable. For them there are three or more baptisms which exclude the baptism of water. They are the baptism of desire, the baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance. These are physically visible baptisms for them and so they contradict Feeneyite EENS or EENS according to the Fourth Lateran Council (1215). This Council did not mention any exceptions.These ‘visible-invisible’ baptismsknown examples of salvation in the present time for us human beings, are also extended to LG 8, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, for the cardinals.

APOSTLES CREED WITH TWO INTERPRETATIONS

For me the Apostles Creed refers to the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church which still teaches that outside the Church there is no salvation. For the  cardinals the message  is outside the Church there is known salvation, exceptions for the pre-1949 magisterial understanding on there being exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.

So I am in harmony with the pre-1949 Magisterium, and they are in schism.

For me the Catechism of Pope Pius X (24Q and 29 Q on outside the Church there is no salvation) is not contradicted by 24Q (invincible ignorance etc). For them there is a contradiction.

For me the Catechism of the Catholic Church ( 1257 on the Necessity of Baptism) is not contradicted by the references to hypothetical and invisible cases  mentioned in the line ‘God is not limited to the Sacraments ‘. For them CCC 1257 is contradictory and confusing.

HERETICAL NEW CARDINALS IN SEPTEMBER

In this heretical and schismatic condition there will be new cardinals in September and they include Cardinal-designate Vincent Manuel Fernandez, the new Prefect of the Dicastery for Doctrine and Faith. He needs to recant. The other cardinals need to do the same. Fernandez is in first class heresy according to the Pope John Paul II’s, Ad Tuendem Fidem, which mention a hierarchy of truths for Catholics to follow. Fernandez does not have the Catholic faith. This is a scandal. To re-interpret the Creeds, Councils, Catechisms etc is a kind of apostasy. Cardinals who do not affirm the Creeds in their original meaning should not be allowed to offer Holy Mass.

PERMISSION TO OFFER HOLY MASS

Roberto dei Mattei states:

As regards the Mass una cum Bergoglio, the lawyer Patruno gives a good explanation of the passage of St Thomas, often quoted inappropriately, according to which anyone sins who hears Mass or receives the sacraments from heretical, schismatic or excommunicated ministers (Summa TheologiaeIII, q.82, a.9). The passage refers to heretics, schismatics and the excommunicated who are deprived of the exercise of their powers by a sentence of the Church. Until this definitive pronouncement has been made, one may to go to Mass and receive the sacraments from priests subjectively considered heretical, etc. Communicatio in sacris with heretics is illicit when a sentence of the Church has declared them as such, but until that moment it is licit to receive communion from them and hear their Mass.


Pope Francis, the lawyer Patruno judiciously asserts, may be a debated figure, but “until there is the sententia ecclesiae, no one - layman or ordinary priest - may substitute himself for the teaching Church” (p. 213). At the most, the opinion that one might have about Francis could count as the opinion of a private scholar. But no man, apart from the pope, is by nature infallible: only the pope is, under certain conditions, when he exercises his mandate. Moreover, there can be no Church without a pope, and if today the pope is not Francis, who is or will be? These are unavoidable questions to which a “charismatic” answer cannot be given, outside the most elementary notions of theology and canon law.

Cardinals, who do not interpret Vatican Council II, EENS, the Catechism and Church Documents rationally and so traditionally, should not be allowed to offer Holy Mass.

Cardinals who reject the ecclesiology of the old Roman Missal, which is in harmony with the Vatican Council II interpreted rationally, should not be allowed to offer Holy Mass in any Rite.


Cardinal Vincent Nichols, Robert Sarah, Walter Kasper, Francis Arinza, Blaise Cupich, Gerhard Muller, Raymond Leo Burke and Luiz Ladaria should not be allowed to offer Holy Mass, until they affirm the Faith and so correct the scandal.


The most reasonable path to follow in this painful situation seems to be the one traced by the Correctio filialis of 16 July 2017 (http://www.correctiofilialis.org/it/), a firm and respectful document presented by 40 scholars, later becoming more than 200, to urge the Holy Father to reject the heresies and errors he has promoted. This initiative deserves to be taken up again, but above all adopted by a suitable number of cardinals and bishops, not in order to “depose” the pope, but to admonish him filially, following the example of St Paul towards St Peter (Ad Gal 2:14).


The Cardinals like Pope Francis, of course, all these years, have been justifying their heresies with Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally.

The signatories of the Correctio Filiale cannot correct Pope Francis and the cardinals, until they also interpret Church Documents rationally. I have mentioned this before and there is no comment or denial from them.They are making the same mistake on Vatican Council II etc, as the cardinals and Pope Francis. This is also the error of Roberto dei Mattei, Peter Kwasniewski, Taylor Marshall, John Henry Weston, Michael Matt, Michael Voris and others.


-Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/07/the-college-of-cardinals-is-not.html


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How can Cardinals Vincent Nichols, Robert Sarah, Walter Kasper, Francis Arinza, Blaise Cupich, Gerhard Muller, Raymond Leo Burke and Luiz Ladaria accept Archbishop Victor Fernandez as the Prefect of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith when he interprets Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally. This is a public and official error of the DDF.

  

How can Cardinals Vincent Nichols, Robert Sarah, Walter Kasper, Francis Arinza, Blaise Cupich, Gerhard Muller, Raymond Leo Burke and Luiz Ladaria accept Archbishop Victor Manuel Fernandez as the Prefect of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith when he interprets Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally? This is a public and official error of the DDF.This is unethical and not Catholic. There is no denial from the DDF.

If he did not interpret Vatican Council II irrationally he would be a Feeneyite on extra  ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Council interpreted rationally supports the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the Catechisms of Trent and Pius X.

By 2025, the Jubilee Year, the traditionalists could be told that they are ‘religious fanatics’ since they do not (correctly) accept Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally. So they could be outside the Church officially according to the leftist secular administration in Rome and the ecclesiastical authorities at the Vatican.

The old moral theology would be considered ‘immoral’ by Fernandez since it is contradicted by Vatican Council II ( irrational). He does not mention that his new moral theology would become obsolete when Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally. - Lionel Andrades


JULY 12, 2023

Cardinals Vincent Nichols, Robert Sarah, Walter Kasper, Francis Arinze, Blaise Cupich, Gerhard Muller, Raymond Leo Burke and Luiz Ladaria should not be allowed to offer Holy Mass, until they affirm the Faith and so correct the scandal. They are all interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally.

 


Cardinals Vincent Nichols, Robert Sarah, Walter Kasper, Francis Arinze, Blaise Cupich, Gerhard Muller, Raymond Leo Burke and Luiz Ladaria should not be allowed to offer Holy Mass, until they affirm the Faith and so correct the scandal. They are all interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally.  They are changing the Deposit of the Faith on Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Councils, Catechisms, extra ecclesiam nulla salus, baptism of desire etc and so Michael Voris and Church Militant TV are doing the same.


Michael Voris and other organisations have formed a needed Alliance for Defending the Deposit of Faith, and this is commendable. But they must acknowledge that the liberalism which they oppose, polygamy etc, is justified by Pope Francis and the cardinals, with Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally and not rationally.


When the Council is interpreted rationally it supports Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the rest of Tradition. There is no theological opening for polygamy, same sex unions etc. Vatican Council II can no more be used to support this immorality. -Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/07/cardinals-vincent-nichols-robert-sarah.html

 

Monday, April 29, 2024

Pope Francis is only Magisterial when he interprets Vatican Council II rationally. Otherwise he is divisive

 

                                                                   - Lionel Andrades

The Joy, Sorrow, and Glory of a Religious Profession



https://catholicism.org/ad-rem-no-459.html

The Brothers, Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary






https://catholicism.org/the-brothers


SEPTEMBER 3, 2019

Vocations to the religious life : choose the St. Benedict Center


If you have a vocation to the religious life choose the St. Benedict Center.With other Catholic religious communities you would be choosing mortal sins of faith.They are part of the widespread Leftist schism within the Church.In future the Church could correct itself but for now it is only the persecuted Prior of the St. Benedict Center who interprets Vatican Council II and other magisterial documents rationally.
-Lionel Andrades




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Seminarian Brunch
What is the status of the Saint Benedict Center and the “Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary”?
The individuals who work and reside at Saint Benedict Center in Richmond, NH, are men and women who have chosen to live in community having adopted and following their own set of rules.
Lionel: This is false. The religious communities in the Diocese of Manchester, USA interpret Vatican Council II, the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and other magisterial documents with an irrational premise to create a schism with the popes on EENS and a rupture with the Syllabus of Errors, Athanasius Creed etc. This is heresy. It is official heresy adopted for political reasons. So candidates with a religious vocation must beware.
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 Neither Saint Benedict Center, the Immaculate Heart of Mary School, nor the self-referenced “Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary,” enjoy any recognition, canonical or otherwise, in the Universal Roman Catholic Church or in the Diocese of Manchester. 
Lionel: True.Since Brother Andre Marie MICM, the Prior at the St.Benedict Center, N.H interprets Vatican Council II and EENS without a false premise and so there is no rupture with Tradition nor Leftist schism with the past popes on EENS.The other religious communities in Manchester, are in a rupture with the founders of their communities.For example, the Franciscans do not interpret EENS like St. Francis of Assisi. He held the strict interpretation of EENS.
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They are not a Catholic organization (de facto or otherwise,) nor can they, or should they, present themselves in such a way. The Immaculate Heart of Mary School is not a Catholic School, nor can it, or should it, present itself as such, or imply that it offers an education rooted in Catholic Tradition.
Lionel : They are not recognized as a Catholic organization by the diocese and the political Left since they do not interpret magisterial documents with an irrational premise to create a rupture with the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS, the past exclusivist ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return. So they are not politically correct like the Bishop Libasci and the other Catholic religious communities in New England.The Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary at the St. Benedict Center have not reneged on the Faith.
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The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in Rome, in April 2016 and again in October 2016, declared “unacceptable,” therefore erroneous and contrary to Church teachings, the manner with which the Saint Benedict Center and the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary interpret the principle “extra ecclesiam nulla salus,” (outside the Church there is no salvation.) Rome pronounced the matter closed, thus no longer open to dialogue or debate.
Lionel: The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF) in official letters posted on the website of the Diocese of Manchester, has asked the St. Benedict Center to interpret unknown cases of being saved in invincible ignorance ( CCC 847-848) as being known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. The CDF continues to test everyone's intelligence.
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In the past, the Bishop of Manchester has granted permission for a priest in good standing to offer ministry at the Saint Benedict Center. This fact was manipulated by the Slaves and the Center to imply support or recognition by the Church. To avoid any further misrepresentation of the status of the Saint Benedict Center and the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, beginning 7 January 2019, Catholic priests are now forbidden to celebrate the Sacraments of the Church at the Center.
Lionel: The founder of the community, was Fr. Leonard Feeney.Since he too would interpret EENS and the baptism of desire etc without an irrationality, ecclesiastical Masonry did not permit him to offer Holy Mass.Restrictions were placed on the St. Benedict Center of that time too.Since they would not speculative falsely and claim that there were known  non Catholics saved outside the Church in those times.They would not suggest that these unknown people were alleged exceptions to the traditional ecclesiology and concept of ecumenism.
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Consequently, the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, The Saint Benedict Center, The Saint Benedict Center, Inc., and the Immaculate Heart of Mary School, are placed under strict canonical prohibitions and obligations. It is the most sincere hope of the Bishop of Manchester that all those associated with the Saint Benedict Center and its various entities will rediscover full communion with the See of Peter.
Lionel : The diocese  interprets unknown cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance as being personally known and visible non Catholics saved outside the Catholic Church, without faith and baptism.They then apply this irrationality to magisterial documents to create a an artificial rupture with Tradition. 
So they reject the Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation.This is heresy.It is schism with the past popes.This is a mortal sin of faith. Offering Mass in this condition is a sacrilege.The St. Benedict Center has to accept all this to be in full communion with Pope Francis and Bishop Libasci.
They have to choose EENS ( with the irrational premise) instead of EENS ( interpreted without the irrational premise).
They have to choose the Nicene Creed interpreted with the irrational premise which is a rupture with the Creed as it was understood over the centuries.
They have to choose to interpret Vatican Council II with visible cases of BOD, BOB and I.I to create a rupture with the past exclusivist understanding of salvation in the Catholic Church. Etc, etc.
They Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of  Mary could be in full communion with the Church but would have to choose heresy, scandal and  sacrilege.
Brother Andre Marie is not a sedevacantist and neither a schismatic. He affirms Vatican Council II interpreted rationally.
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Catholics are not permitted, under any circumstances, to receive the sacraments of the Church at the Saint Benedict Center, Richmond, New Hampshire, and its associated locations, nor should they participate in any activity provided by this group, their school and summer camp.
In his pastoral care for the souls of those who work, live at, or reside near the Saint Benedict Center, the Bishop of Manchester has arranged for the celebration of the Extraordinary Form of the Mass (Latin Mass) at Saint Stanislaus, 80 Richmond St., Winchester, NH 03470, on Sundays at 7:45am.
Lionel: If you have a vocation to the religious life choose the St. Benedict Center.With other Catholic religious communities you would be choosing mortal sins of faith.They are part of the widespread Leftist schism within the Church.In future the Church could correct itself but for now it is only the persecuted Prior of the St. Benedict Center who interprets Vatican Council II and other magisterial documents rationally.
- Lionel Andrades





 SEPTEMBER 3, 2019


TUESDAY, MAY 6, 2014

Southwark Emeritus Bishop cites Archbishop Lefebvre on Nostra Aetate : like the University of Bristol they use an irrationality

The Most Reverend Kevin John Patrick McDonald, BA, STL, STD, former Archbishop of Southwark in a report on Nostra Aetate (1) draws support from Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and other traditionalists. They all use a false premise in the interpretation of Nostra Aetate 2, they assume the deceased saved with 'a ray of that Truth' and who are not Catholics are visible to us on earth. Then they conclude that these cases are exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.
The Emeritus Bishop of Southwark, England states,'For those who are unhappy with the direction the Church took at Vatican II, this text and the Decree on Ecumenism are the texts that cause the most serious difficulty: they are more problematic than the liturgical changes that Vatican II brought in its wake. That was certainly the view of Archbishop Lefebvre. For him and his followers - and, indeed, for some who remain within the Catholic Church - these texts fatally undermined the Church's doctrinal self-understanding...'
 
For the Southwark Bishop Nostra  Aetate 2 ( a ray of that Truth) and Unitatis Redintigratio 3 ( imperfect communion with the Church) refer to those non Catholics who are saved and who are personally known to us. They are dead and in Heaven and are visible in some forum on earth. If they were no personally known and seen on earth how could they be exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ? So for the Archbishop they are explicit exceptions and Vatican Council II is a break with the dogma on salvation and the teaching on other religions and ecumenism.
 
Even for Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre those saved in other religions were known exceptions to the dogma on exclusive salvation. They were relevant. So he mentioned it. Here is Archbishop Lefebvre::
Consider a Hindu in Tibet who has no knowledge of the Catholic Church. He lives according to his conscience and to the laws which God has put into his heart. He can be in the state of grace, and if he dies in this state of grace, he will go to heaven.” (The Angelus, “A Talk Heard Round the World,” April, 2006, p. 5.)
The Hindu in Tibet mentioned by Archbishop Lefebvre is known only to God. He cannot be known to us. Since he is not visible to us in 2014 he cannot be an excèption to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Archbishop Lefebvre would assume that he is an exception and relevant to the dogma.Otherwise why mention it?
 
Similarly for Archbishop McDonald those saved with 'a ray of that Truth' are explicit exceptions to the traditional doctrine on exclusive salvation.
Here is Archbishop Lefebvre again:
Evidently,certain distinctions must be made. Souls can be saved in a religion other than the Catholic religion (Protestantism, Islam, Buddhism,etc.), but not by this religion. There may be souls who, not knowing Our Lord, have by the grace of the good Lord, good interior dispositions,who submit to God...But some of these persons make an act of love which implicitly is equivalent to baptism of desire. ("Against the Heresies",p.216)
Sure they can be saved and these cases would not be known to us. Is the founder of the SSPX implying that these cases are relevant to the literal interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney on extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
 
On the University of Bristol website the Catholic liberal professor of theology infers like the Archbishops that Nostra Aetate contradicts the traditional understanding of the Catholic Church on other religions and salvation.
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Here is Nostra Aetate and it does not mention any exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
NOSTRA AETATE 2
2. From ancient times down to the present, there is found among various peoples a certain perception of that hidden power which hovers over the course of things and over the events of human history; at times some indeed have come to the recognition of a Supreme Being, or even of a Father. This perception and recognition penetrates their lives with a profound religious sense.

Religions, however, that are bound up with an advanced culture have struggled to answer the same questions by means of more refined concepts and a more developed language. Thus in Hinduism, men contemplate the divine mystery and express it through an inexhaustible abundance of myths and through searching philosophical inquiry. They seek freedom from the anguish of our human condition either through ascetical practices or profound meditation or a flight to God with love and trust. Again, Buddhism, in its various forms, realizes the radical insufficiency of this changeable world; it teaches a way by which men, in a devout and confident spirit, may be able either to acquire the state of perfect liberation, or attain, by their own efforts or through higher help, supreme illumination. Likewise, other religions found everywhere try to counter the restlessness of the human heart, each in its own manner, by proposing "ways," comprising teachings, rules of life, and sacred rites. The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions. She regards with sincere reverence those ways of conduct and of life, those precepts and teachings which, though differing in many aspects from the ones she holds and sets forth, nonetheless often reflect a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men. Indeed, she proclaims, and ever must proclaim Christ "the way, the truth, and the life" (John 14:6), in whom men may find the fullness of religious life, in whom God has reconciled all things to Himself.(4)
The Church, therefore, exhorts her sons, that through dialogue and collaboration with the followers of other religions, carried out with prudence and love and in witness to the Christian faith and life, they recognize, preserve and promote the good things, spiritual and moral, as well as the socio-cultural values found among these men.
 
Vocations to a religious life in England have to accept this irrational interpretation of Nostra Aetate.
 
According to the Vocation Director in the Archdiocese of Southwark,Fr.Stephen Langridge ( info@southwarkvocations.com ) young vocations to a religious life must accept that they can see the dead on earth. They must assume that those saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire are known exceptions to the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Contact your local Diocesan Vocations Director
 
But why? He knows that we cannot see the dead. Why must young people in the archdiocese accept this irrationality ?
He said it is so since the Church said Fr.Leonard Feeney was wrong for not accepting the baptism of desire etc as being an exception to his literal interpretation of the dogma on salvation. Duh!
-Lionel Andrades
1.
Nostra Aetate is a very short document but its implications and repercussions have been enormous. It has to be seen in the context of the overall renewal of Vatican II since it focuses and symbolises the spirit and the direction of that renewal. It was and remains a controversial text. For those who are unhappy with the direction the Church took at Vatican II, this text and the Decree on Ecumenism are the texts that cause the most serious difficulty: they are more problematic than the liturgical changes that Vatican II brought in its wake. That was certainly the view of Archbishop Lefebvre. For him and his followers - and, indeed, for some who remain within the Catholic Church - these texts fatally undermined the Church's doctrinal self-understanding and have seriously damaged the Church's self-confidence. Yet Nostra Aetate is integral to the whole direction of conciliar teaching. Most Reverend Kevin John Patrick McDonald, BA, STL, STD, former Archbishop of Southwark
 
May 5, 2014

University of Bristol is making the same factual error on Nostra Aetate as Cardinal Richard Cushing and the Jesuits in Boston, 2014

MONDAY, FEBRUARY 7, 2022

No one is formally asking Bishop Roland Minnerath to interpret Vatican Council II rationally, only. Vocations to the religious life in Dijon, France must be told to interpret Vatican Council II only with the Rational Premise. Religious Superiors must make their Profession of Faith and take their Oath of Office in public, only by accepting and affirming Vatican Council II (Rational).

 


In interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II as referring to invisible and unknown people in 2022. Bishop Roland Minnerath interprets them as referring to physically visible and known non Catholics saves outside the Church without faith and the baptism of water. No one is formally asking Bishop Minnerath to interpret Vatican Council II rationally, only.

He has written a book supporting a theology of religions and another book critical of the Syllabus of Errors. In both these books he used the False Premise (invisible cases are visible) to interpret Vatican Council II.

So with the False Premise these books are Christocentric and not Ecclesiocentric/ Christocentric. The False Premise creates the New Theology which projects exceptions for the past ecclesiocentrism. His books are written with the New Theology and not the old theology. He supports the New Ecumenism, since with the False Premise he creates exceptions for the old ecumenism of return.

Vocations to the religious life in Dijon, France must be told to interpret Vatican Council II only with the Rational Premise.

Religious Superiors must make their Profession of Faith and take their Oath of Office in public, only by accepting and affirming Vatican Council II (Rational).  -Lionel Andrades





 


June 29, 2021


Bishop Roland Minnerath has interpreted Vatican Council II with the false premise and with this error has written a book on 'the theology of religions' he has also interpreted the Syllabus of Errors with a false premise and published books with this error

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/06/bishop-roland-minnerath-has-interpreted



NOVEMBER 23, 2021

Vocations to the Religious Life in Dijon, France have to interpret Vatican Council II ( LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc) with a False Premise and so reject the traditional interpretation of the Creeds and Catechisms to be politically correct with Macron and the Left in France.It is the same in Spain and England.

 Vocations to the Religious Life in Dijon, France have to interpret Vatican Council II ( LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc) with a False Premise and so reject the traditional interpretation of the Creeds and Catechisms to be politically correct  with Macron and the Left in France.It is the same in Spain and England.Those Catholics who go for Holy Mass in the vernacular  could take up this issue with the their bishops. 

The diocesan priests in Dijon who offer Holy Mass in French could ask Bishop Roland Minnerath to interpret Vatican Council II rationally and so also the Creeds, Catechisms and extra ecclesiam nulla salus


Then there will not be doctrinal division with the past Magisterium at the Novus Ordo Mass.


Archbishop Arthur Roche when he was the bishop of Leeds, England, would not affirm the dogma EENS since he wanted to interpret  the BOD, BOB and I.I  with the fake premise, for political reasons. 

The same ruse is followed by Andrea Grillo and the professors at the Benedictine University of St. Anselm, Rome, when they attend Holy Mass in Italian.They have courses in liturgy, with academic degrees being given, which are approved by Archbishop Arthur Roche.-Lionel Andrades
























Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Dr. Taylor Marshall have found the Specific Error in Vatican Council II.They now know what creates the New Theology and the break with Tradition.It is the False Premise.
There are no literal and visible cases of the Baptism of Desire said Bishop Athanasius Schneider.

Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Dr.Taylor Marshall chose the Blue Left Hand Side  Rational Column. The Ecclesia Dei communities must do the same and demand that Bishop Roland Minnerath also interpret Vatican Council II with the rational column.
















 











OCTOBER 1, 2021

Ecclesia Dei communities demand that Bishop Roland Minnerath be rational. With the Red Right Hand Side Column he and Pope Francis create official heresy. This is schism with the past Magisterium ( Graphics )                                                                                                                       

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/10/with-irrational-premise-of-red-right.html